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re: # 2 or #3 seed - which do you prefer?

Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:13 am to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:13 am to
I would rather be a "strong" 3 seed if it means getting sent to a team ranked 12-16 than a "weak" 2 seed sent to a region against a national seed.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18533 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:15 am to
2 and 3 are irrelevant. If you win game one you are facing #1 regardless. This thread was about pitching not batting orders, and as far as a chance to host a super ...... whoa Nellie!
Posted by irnfan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1442 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:23 am to
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2 and 3 are irrelevant. If you win game one you are facing #1 regardless. This thread was about pitching not batting orders, and as far as a chance to host a super ...... whoa Nellie!
Most of the point's are minor, but not irrelevant. 2 helps for the 1st game. As far as hosting a super, no one is predicting that at that point, but if you're planning a strategy, you certainly want to consider every possibility.

However, I agree, the most important factor will be who we get matched up with as the number 1's in our regional/super.

ETA: reread my original post and corrected the response.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18533 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:26 am to
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However, I agree, the most important factor will be who we get matched up with as the number 1's in our regional/super.



I agree with this
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20355 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:30 am to
What is also important, like I said, is the level of pitcher that #2/#3 seed throws at us in the first game. That can vary wildly across the 16 regionals.

Some podunk #3 seed teams will bring a really good ace pitcher. Some solid #3 seeds have decent pitchers, but no studs. To me, that's more important than whether we are a #2 vs #3.
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
3023 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:31 am to
quote:

This thread was about pitching not batting orders, and as far as a chance to host a super ...... whoa Nellie!


As the OP, this thread was not about pitching. It was about whether being a possible home team in the marble game trumps having to play a #2 seed to open the regional.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:34 am to
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However, I agree, the most important factor will be who we get matched up with as the number 1's in our regional/super


Yeah, that's all I really care about. You have to think being a 2 seed would mean being sent to a national seed regional. Although the options are kind of limited.

But if its that's the case, I'll take the 3 seed.

I would love to be sent to a Minnesota or UConn type of team in a regional.

1- because I don't think they are world beaters.
2- because they will have to gamble in game 1. Those type of teams may not have 2 dominating starters. Do you gamble in game 1, against a 4 seed and save your ace for a potentional match up with LSU? Or do you throw your ace and feel you can beat LSU in round 2 with your number 2.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71168 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:34 am to
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Although a #2 seed would give us a more favorable opening game, I would prefer a #3 at this point.

outside being the home team, what else would be different? You still play opposite the 1v4 matchup either way. And after that, home and away team is decided by who has been the home team less or a coin flip if both teams have been the home team the same number of times.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 11:36 am
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18533 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:34 am to
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What is also important, like I said, is the level of pitcher that #2/#3 seed throws at us in the first game



What’s more important to me is what pitchers we throw. I don’t have a lot of confidence in Hess right now . Hilliard is solid , but if Labas can’t go then what do we have ? It’s a roll of the dice as to what Sanders, Bush, and the rest show up.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:40 am to
I have no idea how seeding works.
Simple question. If we are in the last teams to make it into the tournament why won’t we be a 4 seed?
If we got a two or three seed wouldn’t the tournament committee be admitting their system is BS. The whole idea is rather contradictory.
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
3023 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:46 am to
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Simple question. If we are in the last teams to make it into the tournament why won’t we be a 4 seed?


The #4 seeds are used for the automatic qualifiers from the lesser conferences, e.g. SWAC tournament champion.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:50 am to
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If we got a two or three seed wouldn’t the tournament committee be admitting their system is BS. The whole idea is rather contradictory


The same reason bubble teams in the NCAA basketball tournaments are usually 9-13 seeds and not 15-16 seeds. Those bottom seeds are reserved for 1 bid leagues, where nobody in the entire conference is worth a crap.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:25 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22227 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
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I'm pretty sure, after the first round games, it's a coin flip to see who is home/away


It goes by who has the been the home/visiting team the most times then it goes to a coin flip.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17031 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
#3 would probably put us in one of the stronger regionals top to bottom but with a weak #1 seed.

#2 would probably put LSU in with one of the national seeds.
Posted by CaroTiger
South Carolina
Member since May 2011
1268 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:20 pm to
D1 Baseball projections as of May 21st has us as the 3 seed at Stetson, with South Florida #2 and Yale #4. Of course that could change after the tournament.
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21846 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:45 pm to
LSU has a better chance of winning their first game as a 2 seed rather than a 3 seed.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5991 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Other being the only advantage from a gameplay standpoint in any neutral site game in any sport it's really not that big of a deal.


Having a DH reduces the advantage of being the home team. As last night showed, having the pitcher's spot in the order come up in the bottom half of an inning is a huge advantage over having it come up in the top half.

The other advantage is being able to play for a single run in extra innings vs trying to score multiple runs. I would say that being the home team vs visiting team actually comes into play in less than half of college games.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1763 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 2:33 pm to
If it was seeded all the way through, it would matter.
In the case of baseball, they only seed the first 16 so the number 1 team could get the best 2 seed in their region instead of the worst like they do in basketball.
Posted by TPecoraro23
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:57 pm to
Everyone saying it doesnt matter is retarded. If we are a 2 seed and win our regional and the number 1 or 2 seed in our pairing loses we just became a host of the super regionals
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