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re: Why does Louisiana produce so few good QB prospects?

Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:04 am to
Stan Humphries and Bubby Brister were on the same college roster.

Bobby Hebert was maybe a year or two ahead of them.

LA produces good QB's.

How about Robert Lane? -- j/k with that one.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:08 am to
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We should be looking in TX for our QBs --


Where is Sumlin looking?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74249 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:24 am to
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So you think it's bad HS coaching that leads to few LB recruits in La? That surprises me. Do you think guys who should be stud LBs are instead put at DE?


I think it's definitely part of the reason. While much of playing LB is based on instincts, a lot of it is based on the ability to quickly diagnose what's going on and react to it. The read and react skills aren't being honed by the jackelgs coaching defense in the state, by and large.

I do agree that playing guys out of position also is to blame. Putting guys with LB potential at DE or DT doesn't help with their development, and puts them at a disadvantage when it comes to being recruited if they're undersized for those positions on the next level.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129217 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:10 pm to
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Where is Sumlin looking?

The West Coast as of late.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9468 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:58 pm to
Brock Berlin was pretty damn good in high school.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:15 pm to
He wasn't a Louisiana Man...a transplant as I remember...
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24140 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:27 pm to
Joe Ferguson went to Arkansas the same year Bert Jones went to LSU.
Posted by d6k
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
1492 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:28 am to
Holy Cross has a freshman that started all season this year, Chandler Fields, that will be very heavily recruited in the next couple of years
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:01 pm to
Ideally.. we move to a single back offense.. stop giving scholarships to fullbacks.. and fill the roster with 2-3 more QBs in their place
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38642 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 5:49 pm to
Don't forget Kevin Faulk. He was the QB for Carencro when they won a state championship.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:28 am to
All from the Woodlawn breed stock of Laird, Prather, Bradshaw, Ferguson and Booty.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7202 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:13 pm to
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He wasn't a Louisiana Man...a transplant as I remember...


Actually, Berlin is a Shreveport native.
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Posted by Pacito
Member since Jan 2013
1239 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:23 pm to
Over the years Louisiana has produced many great quarterbacks. LSU has not got many to go there.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7202 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:31 pm to
Like anything else, it's a combination of a number of factors. Yes, the state of TX produces an amazingly large number of college fb QB's. Last year "College Game Day" did a segment that said 1/5 BCS starting QB's at that time played high school fb in TX. Having said that, while LA produces it's fair share of QB's, LSU gets very few of them. There are different reasons for this, but LSU's style of offense seems to be the real reason. None of the Evangel QB's have ever gone to LSU (except Josh Booty, AFTER he'd failed at Major League Baseball) because of our offense. Did anyone here ever think we really had a shot at the Patterson kid? I sure didn't. I don't recall LSU ever being seriously considered by the Manning's. I doubt LA high school coaches are across the board worse coaches than the vast majority of coaches elsewhere. And the practice of putting your best athlete at QB is not a practice unique to LA. High school coaches nearly everywhere do the same thing, especially w/ the popularity of the spread option offense. Last, LSU has missed out on the evaluation of instate high school prospects, case in point, Dak Prescott. The year we didn't recruit him, we instead recruited Steve Rivers! And a number of the NFL QB's from LA mentioned earlier weren't recruited by LSU, either. Don't forget to add Doug Williams to the list of NFL QB's from LA, as well.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80202 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 1:56 am to
None of them are making it to the pros. Sorry, but gimmick teams aren't winning titles with athletes at qb.

Posted by clhstrojans
Lockport
Member since Apr 2008
821 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 2:52 am to
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teams aren't winning titles with athletes at qb.


- Acadiana won 5A last year with a Texas Tech LB Kevin Moore at QB.

- Warren Easton nearly won 4A with Texas A&M CB Capers-Smith last year.

- Livonia won 3A with a 5'8 160 lb "athlete" Cee Jay Powell last year.

- Many won 2a last year with ULM safety Xavier Dias at QB.

- Haynesville won 1a last year with Arkansas LB Kendrick Jackson at QB.

I could go on and on, but you get the idea teams that just put their best athlete at QB in Louisiana win their fair share of titles, especially in the lower classes.
Posted by Geaux2Hell
BR
Member since Sep 2006
4791 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 7:45 am to
Bruce Feldman wrote a very interesting book on quarterbacks. Essentially says that being a modern qb is the equivalent of having your kid learn to play the piano or violin. Tons of time and money (dont recall the exact figure he puts out there). I feel like most of these "athletes" playing qb in LA dont have the resources that kids in TX and CA have. Not everyone can afford to send their kid to George Whitfield or Steve Clarkson. The in-state qb talent is very raw and our current coaching staff doesnt seem to have a clue how to develop a young qb. LINK
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 10:58 am to
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Another reason is it seems some of them choose baseball (Zach Lee, Josh Booty, etc.)



Zach Lee was from McKinney in DFW area (you know the city where the suburb LEO did a barrell roll at the pool party & grabbed a girls hair?)
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