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re: Who will get our 32nd and last scholarship?
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:38 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:38 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I agree with positions but Id change the priority OL - they were bad last year and will be worse this year if they dont find some studs. Freshmen dont typically shine in year one and Myles isnt exactly mobile. LB - the loss of Baskerville and Clark hasnt truly been addressed. Will Perkins be ready to play at a high level in year one? CB - We have bodies here now, but can they play up to DBU expectations? Does Ward go back to corner? TE - It'd be nice to have another guy here, but I dont know that its a huge issue if we dont get one this cycle. I have a ton of confidence in our backs and receivers to mask this gap.
Have you been in a coma for the last month, or are you just completely ignorant of everything that’s been happening with the roster?
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:44 pm to Vacherie Saint
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We signed an ivy league all American tackle and he could barely play center in the SEC.
The Ivy League schools don’t give athletic scholarships. There are still pros and good transfers who come from those schools, but they aren’t comparable to good FCS schools like ETSU was this year. The Ivy is closer to D2 than the top of the FCS. Apples and oranges.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:46 pm to wadewilson
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You take a QB now because at any time one of yours can quit and transfer out.
We still have bigger needs. Take 2 next year unless one leaves after spring practice.
Plus, anyone you pull now is either going to be a huge reach barely worth a scholly (because who that’s any good wants to come and potentially sit behind Nuss and Howard in the future), or could convince someone better we already have to leave now. It’s a waste of a scholarship without an impact player available in the portal.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:10 pm to wadewilson
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You take a QB now because at any time one of yours can quit and transfer out.
Any Qb transfer worth anything more than a walk-on spot isn’t coming into a room to be depth. We already have walk on quarterbacks adding another one isn’t going to help.
If you pull in a guy that actually starts you lose Brennan and possibly even Nuss depending on how many years he has available so you’ve gained nothing numbers wise.
We have absolutely no need for a QB transfer right now.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:18 pm to Vacherie Saint
Every opportunity and couldn’t shine? Are you kidding me? They did nothing but shine and dominated on a smaller stage and that is why they are transferring to a power school. So they can show they aren’t a fluke and they are dominant regardless of competition.
-if you don’t think our transfer from UVA doesn’t have the juice to be a good SEC LB, we watch different forms of football
-there’s no we’ll see about our CB transfers, they are proven commodities, 2 of which compete on the same size stage as we do.
-this is just false. No TE= either no run game or a predictable passing game because you are basically running 6 OL. There is now scheming out a Kittle, a Kelce, a non crazy version of Gilbert. If you take them away you are taking a safety out of coverage or an OLB out of the run game, which benefits everyone.
None of your statements are even remotely accurate….
-if you don’t think our transfer from UVA doesn’t have the juice to be a good SEC LB, we watch different forms of football
-there’s no we’ll see about our CB transfers, they are proven commodities, 2 of which compete on the same size stage as we do.
-this is just false. No TE= either no run game or a predictable passing game because you are basically running 6 OL. There is now scheming out a Kittle, a Kelce, a non crazy version of Gilbert. If you take them away you are taking a safety out of coverage or an OLB out of the run game, which benefits everyone.
None of your statements are even remotely accurate….
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:34 pm to YeauxTigers
I am in complete agreement with your assessment. The corner from Okie. State is LEGIT,but man injury or two and serious talent drop, don't mean they not players, just not as much God given talent..I think they will get a good one in spring.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:57 pm to IotaTiger
Hey IotaTiger, JenningsTiger here!
Posted on 2/7/22 at 7:04 pm to YeauxTigers
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We have 28 committed Tigers! The last 4 spots?
Thanks for posting this. Exciting times.
Need a big-play guy on defense, an edge rusher, or safety who can create turnovers.
Need a big-play TE on offense, who can block is always a threat to score, this is becoming more and more a real need for offenses.
Need one more OLineman, injuries here can decimate an offense.
Need one more QB, a dual-threat QB who can run or pass.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 7:56 pm to Jaydeaux
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2020 was O not knowing to go to Johnson first after the Brennan injury.
Given the climate con campus at that time, Johnson had ZERO chance of being next up.
He may not have been the next man up anyway.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:53 pm to TrueTigerTale
Need one more OLineman, injuries here can decimate an offense.
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It also seems to me that OL is the toughest position to evaluate coming out of High School. The OL players coming from the portal have a little more film and history on them which seems like could improve the selection and thus potential impact they could deliver.
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It also seems to me that OL is the toughest position to evaluate coming out of High School. The OL players coming from the portal have a little more film and history on them which seems like could improve the selection and thus potential impact they could deliver.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:01 pm to TrueTigerTale
Also saw this info on possible TE targets. That sounds like they are very high on the ND TE George Takas.
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This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:38 pm to foamperson
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If you really gonna count the ball game that’s pretty stupid.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:47 pm to misey94
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I agree with positions but Id change the priority OL - they were bad last year and will be worse this year if they dont find some studs. Freshmen dont typically shine in year one and Myles isnt exactly mobile. LB - the loss of Baskerville and Clark hasnt truly been addressed. Will Perkins be ready to play at a high level in year one? CB - We have bodies here now, but can they play up to DBU expectations? Does Ward go back to corner? TE - It'd be nice to have another guy here, but I dont know that its a huge issue if we dont get one this cycle. I have a ton of confidence in our backs and receivers to mask this gap.
quote:Kudos to you, My Man! 99% of tRanters are not capable of such restrained commentary.
Have you been in a coma for the last month, or are you just completely ignorant of everything that’s been happening with the roster?
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:23 pm to wadewilson
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And a year ago we had a very deep and talented QB room. 2 of those QB's are now playing for division rivals. In the last 21 games, 5 different players have played significant time at QB.
You take a QB now because at any time one of yours can quit and transfer out.
It’s a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy though. The more scholarship QB’s you carry, the more of them you will lose because kids want to play. It’s not absurd to carry 4 scholarship QB’s but as far as I can tell it’s much more common to have 3.
If Finley had been #1 or #2 on the depth chart, he would probably still be here and Max would probably have transferred after spring instead.
We played 3 QB’s in 2020 but only reallly needed 2. The only reason we played 3 was that the staff was basically running a QB competition in the middle of the season.
2021 was a worse deal, but it was also a pretty unlikely string of events:
1. Lose Brennan prior to season.
2. Fire coach midyear, which is likely a huge part of Max’s decision to transfer (obviously impossible to know for sure, but doesn’t feel like much of a stretch).
3. Mismanage Nussmeier’s redshirt by using all 4 games while knowing he’s your only backup in the event that Max goes down.
Regardless of how you feel about the Nuss bowl game redshirt fiasco, the staff shouldn’t have used his last “free” game with nobody behind him unless or until they were ready to make him the starter. That’s just poor roster management, which hopefully will get better under the new staff.
So sure, another QB would be nice to have.. but it’s not going to be very easy finding a transfer who can actually play and is willing to come into a crowded QB room with no guarantees. Ideally, I’d rather use that scholly on a better player at another position and try to find a PWO who can be a serviceable 4th string option. But I do think you make sure to at least keep 1-2 spots open until after spring camp, just in case.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:27 am to lostinbr
Everything you posted - 100 %.
Obviously, it would be very hard to find a QB who will work. You almost have to look for a grad transfer with a couple years of eligibility who is okay with riding pine. Maybe you can find someone that wants a masters that LSU offers. That's a dream of a perfect solution, but we know LSU has played 5 different QB's in the last 21 games, and 2 of our 3 scholarship QB's missed a lot of time with injury last year.
Obviously, it would be very hard to find a QB who will work. You almost have to look for a grad transfer with a couple years of eligibility who is okay with riding pine. Maybe you can find someone that wants a masters that LSU offers. That's a dream of a perfect solution, but we know LSU has played 5 different QB's in the last 21 games, and 2 of our 3 scholarship QB's missed a lot of time with injury last year.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:50 am to wadewilson
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That's a dream of a perfect solution, but we know LSU has played 5 different QB's in the last 21 games, and 2 of our 3 scholarship QB's missed a lot of time with injury last year.
As was stated above, the only reason 2 QBs played in 2020 was because 2 were true freshmen and neither was ready for the roll. That was poor roster management, but another empty body doesn’t really help there. At least one of our backups has a start and a year in a P5 program going into next season.
I’m not sure what you are saying about last year. Myles was obviously injured, but neither Max nor Nuss missed any significant time to anything other than cover for the former bailing out to follow his brother after the season or the latter redshirting.
The bottom line is that 3 CAPABLE QBs is enough.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:56 am to Vacherie Saint
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TE is a position that can be almost 100% schemed out of an offense. If we dont have a top guy, we'll still be OK. Its far from the #1 priority.
You havent seen a BK offense. TE is EXTREMELY important in it. Our TE position is an absolutel disaster right now, by far the worst on the team. It's highest priority to find at least 1 if not 2 guys who can play in the portal. We literally have 2 scholarship players at TE right now, 1 being a true freshman, the other being not exactly any good...then we play a walk on a bunch.
I dont know how anyone can think any other position is a higher priority than TE right now as far as the portal is concerned. IF we can find a starting C, we definitely need to go for it, but outside of that, TE needs to be addressed in the biggest way. We cannot operate in BK's offense without a few capable TEs.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:59 am to wadewilson
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You take a QB now because at any time one of yours can quit and transfer out.
You ensure that by taking another QB, you keep 3 guys happy (Especially with 1 of them being last year here) and it's likely all 3 stick around. What do we think we can even get in the portal at QB? Not someone who is going to be legit competition for a starting job. It would just be adding another player who very likely wouldnt play at all which is kind of a waste and again just rocks the boat in a very comfortable room right now. the focus needs to be on 2023 QBs and if we cant secure one we like there, or a more developmental guy, you look to the portal for 2023 season there.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:27 am to thunderbird1100
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you look to the portal for 2023 season there.
Agree a little with both of you. The QB position is the most critical spot on the field. But my guess is that the plan is to ride in 2022 with Brennan and Nuss. If anything, look for a portal veteran QB in 2023 to support / backup our QBs Nuss and Walker after Brennan departs.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:32 am to YeauxTigers
Center, TE, LB, wildcard best player available
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 9:33 am
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