re: Who did Corey Raymond recruit to UF?

Nine 4 star players. How’s that compare to other DB coaches over the same two year period?

He lost many top targets at UF as he did at LSU. Meanwhile throwing gigantic bags at recruits the last couple years at UF. Corey Raymond is washed.

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He out recruited Steeples and Cooks, that’s for sure

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That sure is a low bar to out recruit those two

It is you with the lack of IQ. Compare his best recruits from Florida to what we signed the last two years. You see the top 100 players and high four stars there? Imagine what he can do now not having to sell playing for a non existent sun belt Billy in a year. Comprehend better?

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Everyone hatting on you, but clearly they lack reading comprehension ability and have the IQ of a banana.

Those that linked the recruiting sites, should have scrolled through the list. Only 1 UF recruit in like the top 20-30.

So he didn't recruit well at all at UF.

Horrible.

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No, you just don't follow recruiting. When Florida started looking like complete trash, kids started decommitting.

Florida lost Wardell Mack and star Filsame that Raymond had committed. Both flipped to Texas. One is from Texas, and one is from Louisiana.


Yall this is not hard to find. These are the guys Corey was either a primary or secondary recruiter on that he had committed in 2023, or committed, but then flipped SPECIFICALLY because of how bad Florida was.

Xavier Filsaime - 4 star 33 overall #2 S
Ja'Keem Jackson - 4 star 55 overall #6 CB
Wardell Mack - 4 star 100 overall #12 CB
Dijon Johnson - 4 star 115 overall #12 CB
Jordan Castell - 4 star 238 overall #17 S
Sheriff Denson - 4 star 256 overall #31 CB
Aaron Gates - 4 star 369 overall #33 S
Bryce Thornton - 3 star 466 overall #47 S

RJ Moten- 4 star S transfer from Michigan

In 2 years, had they been decent, he would have had 7 four star DBs and 8 DBs total. Three DBs in the top 100, 4 in the top 115, and 6 in the top 260.

After looking at this and his assessment at LSU and Florida, I realize that a badly performing head coach or side of football can greatly impact what a position coach can offer to an out of state kid. This has happened twice now. Look at LSU's 2020 class the year before shite hit the fan

Eli Ricks - 5 star 18 overall #2 CB
Dwight McGlothern - 4 star 277 overall #27 CB

Ricks was from California and McGlothern was from Texas. Burns went to UGA and then a year later, came back to LSU. (He was also previously committed to LSU).

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Corey Raymond was dogshit at LSU in 2020-2021.

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so the covid year and Coach O's total collapse?

Hindsight is 20/20. Quit acting like a Monday morning expert.

In the age of NIL. How much does CR matter? What’s his current value as a COACH ?

He’s a good dude and has tons of potential. I hope this whole thing lit a fire under his arse and he comes back ready to work.

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What constitutes a hit? Not every player is going to be a star.

How does this compare with the ratios of other coaches? Lower/higher? Need this for a true comparison

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Obviously, I can't spend an incredible amount of time on the comparison part. But I can give you specifics about who I called "misses"

K Wilson, J Jackson, C Okeke, D Johnson, J Brazil, J Boutte, J Castell, S Densor, D Moore, T Abrams, A Gates, A Jean, K Jones, M Seisay, D Hammond, Z Sheffer, N Jenkins, G Brown, S Smith, K Makaneole -- have no idea who any of these people are! hideous misses IMO
K Toliver - never learned how to look back for the ball
J Stevens - tweener between LB and S...couldn't play either
E Ricks - a-hole
S Ryan - not SEC starting caliber
E Paris, X Lewis, C Lewis - mediocre
K Joseph - disciplinary nightmare
E Monroe - overrated
T Harris - no talent
L Welch - physically weak
M Hampton - not a football player
D Voorhies - I would rather have signed Jason
M Bain - disciplinary issue or total bust
R Jones - not FBS caliber
J Kirklin - contributed little
R Robinson - underperformed

I think that is the ones recruited by Raymond that IMO were bad misses...that is ton of misses. IMO, he only hit on half that many. And BTW, the poster who made up the entire list of Raymond recruits giving him credit for the hits like Tre White, etc. If you give credit to the hits, you have to blame him for the many misses.

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And O was responsible for 19, but had nothing to do w/ 20, 21

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You talking about the teams in 19, 20, 21? Joe Burrow was responsible for winning the NC in 2019...not Orgeron or even Joe Brady. 2020 and 2021 was the typical Orgeron who quite frankly is not a very good head football coach. He sucked at Ole Miss and had a decent run as interim coach at USC. But there was a reason he was never a defensive coordinator.

Some here are saying Raymond might have been screwed in 2020 and 2021 because Orgeron didn't give a damn after winning the NC. That actually might have some merit.