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What makes LSU so good at finding diamonds in the rough?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:21 pm
Is our scouting department just that top flight? M Claiborne, T Mathieu, K Sheppard, Lavar Edwards, Lamin Barrow. The list goes on and on of 3 star guys who end up being great players. Are they just under the radar or is LSU just that good at developing talent?
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:22 pm to Mattwells90
The state is loaded with talent. Especially in small towns where kids are not seen, you'll find diamonds in the rough.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:24 pm to Duckie
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The state is loaded with talent.
This. Makes it way easier. I wonder how much greater the talent would be if Katrina and Rita wouldn't have screwed things up
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:25 pm to Duckie
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The state is loaded with talent.
Talent is here, just got to find it. La is alway at the top in per capita of players in NFL.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:26 pm to Mattwells90
Micah Eugene was a diamond in the rough too.
Our under rated recruits, 3* or below, are better than majority of other 3* or below recruits. Plus, there are a lot of areas around LA that doesn't get a lot of media publicity that is loaded with talent. River parishes, Acadiana / Breaux Bridge area.
Our under rated recruits, 3* or below, are better than majority of other 3* or below recruits. Plus, there are a lot of areas around LA that doesn't get a lot of media publicity that is loaded with talent. River parishes, Acadiana / Breaux Bridge area.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:27 pm to KG5989
I'll also say that the sites don't have the staff to properly recruit LA. It's not the most accessible area, so if you don't go through camp circuits, you may go unnoticed.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:30 pm to Mattwells90
We just have certain intrinsic advantages to turning up talent in La. Couple reasons being that it's easier for kids to get to LSU's camp vs other schools, there's a network of HS coaches that can easily get in touch with LSU, word of mouth, etc.
The only out of state guy you mentioned was Sheppard - he was underrated by the services but not necessarily a diamond in the rough. He had some big SEC offers, so it was the ranking services that dropped the ball there, but schools knew he was talented.
Not to discredit our scouting department because we also turn up some talent from out of state, but I think just being the school in Louisiana and having that network gives LSU a huge upperhand on local diamonds in the rough.
The only out of state guy you mentioned was Sheppard - he was underrated by the services but not necessarily a diamond in the rough. He had some big SEC offers, so it was the ranking services that dropped the ball there, but schools knew he was talented.
Not to discredit our scouting department because we also turn up some talent from out of state, but I think just being the school in Louisiana and having that network gives LSU a huge upperhand on local diamonds in the rough.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:40 pm to tigerfan4120
it's not so much that LSU is good at finding them.. they are just so plentiful here. the problem is we can only take a handful of kids. so other programs get really good kids we couldnt take. Not that those kids aren't talented
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:43 pm to KG5989
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Plus, there are a lot of areas around LA that doesn't get a lot of media publicity that is loaded with talent. River parishes, Acadiana / Breaux Bridge area.
And lots of coaches who don't try to get players noticed.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:54 pm to Mattwells90
I'll echo what others said about Louisiana and add that Miles has done a great job in building relations around the state so they are able to thoroughly evaluate players in the state with accurate information.
Long story short, they don't get bullshyted by Louisiana high school coaches, because these coaches have too much respect for them. If certain coaches tell LSU they need to look at player X, LSU will know they aren't being sold a scam story.
Long story short, they don't get bullshyted by Louisiana high school coaches, because these coaches have too much respect for them. If certain coaches tell LSU they need to look at player X, LSU will know they aren't being sold a scam story.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:06 pm to Mattwells90
Our staff does a good job of evaluating the state. Rivals/scout high school evaluators are HORRIBLE in our region so these kids are not popular to the public but our staff at LSU certainly knows the talent. When they commit, the websites see an LSU commit and slap a 3 star by the name. Not a case of underrated, more under evaluated by recruiting websites.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:06 pm to CourseyCorridor
I understand that there is a lot of talent in state, but they also are good at evaluating players who can come in to the SEC and contribute quickly like Jalen Mills 2 star out of Texas
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:12 pm to Mattwells90
I think it's a product of how little exposure players get outside of one or two power schools and the great amount of talent the state has.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:12 pm to Noon the Great
jalen mills is a beast among other true freshman cb's
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:27 pm to Reda LSU
Louisiana is full of diamonds in the rough. Half of the kids that are labeled as 3* just need a little coaching.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:28 pm to Mattwells90
A combination of scouting, and our players being underrated due to our state not producing a ton of recruiting site $$$$. Our scouting director left recently if I remember correctly though.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:31 pm to Mattwells90
Notice that all the guys being mentioned in this thread are on defense.
Which leads me to believe that finding talented players is the easy part, but it's all about how they are coached and developed.
We've always been able to develop our defensive players leading back to when Saban got here.
We also find talented players on offense, but for whatever reason have trouble coaching them to full potential. The statistics over the last 5 years or so show this.
Hopefully with Cameron on board, the offense can catch up with our defense with player development.
Which leads me to believe that finding talented players is the easy part, but it's all about how they are coached and developed.
We've always been able to develop our defensive players leading back to when Saban got here.
We also find talented players on offense, but for whatever reason have trouble coaching them to full potential. The statistics over the last 5 years or so show this.
Hopefully with Cameron on board, the offense can catch up with our defense with player development.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:33 pm to philter
What everybody else said about the camp circuit and the state as a whole.
Also some on this board make all the stupid jokes they want but our staff is damn good at developing players. Also these so called 3* get to go up against top competition. One of the best things LSU does is taking frames or bodies and building these guys up, the staff loves clean slates so to speak, a player like Rhaheed is their ideal player.
Also some on this board make all the stupid jokes they want but our staff is damn good at developing players. Also these so called 3* get to go up against top competition. One of the best things LSU does is taking frames or bodies and building these guys up, the staff loves clean slates so to speak, a player like Rhaheed is their ideal player.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:35 pm to Mattwells90
very talented area
very talented, highly compensated evaluators
very talented, highly compensated evaluators
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:50 pm to Reda LSU
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jalen Mills is a beast among other true freshman cb's
FIFY
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