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re: Well I guess the kid from Cal Baptist isn’t coming now haha
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:56 am to Datsmoneydude
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:56 am to Datsmoneydude
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Kurland had 1 error at 2nd this season
I realize that, also. It's been discussed. You'll notice very often that people who play second, instead of shortstop, make fewer errors, because it's a much easier position. What's his range, what's his arm strength? Because Park is elite in both of those categories, and so it seems more than reasonable that his skillset would play up considerably at second base.
But let them play it out in practice during the offseason, and may the best man win, and the other goes to third. I feel good about it, no matter how it shakes out.
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:15 am to Metaloctopus
Kurland will play 2nd
Just stop
Just stop
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:32 am to Metaloctopus
Not sure I’m following your reason. If Park has that elite an arm wouldn’t that be more reason to have him at 3rd?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:55 am to CatfishJohn
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Kurland will play 2nd
Just stop
I'm glad you can see the future. I'll keep that in mind.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:03 am to vidtiger23
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Not sure I’m following your reason. If Park has that elite an arm wouldn’t that be more reason to have him at 3rd?
My main reason is his range. All of his skills will play at third. My argument isn't that he shouldn't play third at all, but rather that I think it's more important to have that kind of range playing at second where he'll have a lot more chances. And the arm strength helps on turning double plays. We turned a lot of them last year, but this year we couldn't turn them, for many reasons.
With Kurland at second, I have little doubt we'd be much improved, but if we're going to play either Park or Kurland out of their normal position, it is my opinion, right this second, that Park may be the better option at second.
But as I said before, let them battle it out in practice. I have no issue with who ends up where, as it will play itself out. Dickinson came in as a shortstop and moved to second base and it went great. I don't know why this idea is coming across as foreign to anyone.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:08 am to Metaloctopus
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don't know why this idea is coming across as foreign to anyone.
Because everyone knows 3rd is harder to play than 2B. So if both spots are open, the better defender will play there. I don’t think that’s Kurland in this scenario
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 10:12 am
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:14 am to Metaloctopus
It’s not that the idea is foreign it’s that no one knows. I agree with your stance that whoever ends up where will be just fine. They will go over all scenarios in the offseason and end up where is best for the team. Kurland is a great 2nd baseman so if he ends up there we will be just fine. As I’m sure Park as well, although I know less about his game.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:18 am to Lester Earl
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Because knows 3rd is harder to play than 2B. So if both spots are open, the better defender will play there. I don’t think that’s Kurland in this scenario
Well, I'm not saying that isn't necessarily the case, and you could be right. It seems to me that they are both very good defenders, but Kurland is more accurate on his throws, based on making one error all season. My initial thinking here is I want the guy with better accuracy making the longer throws from third, and the guy with more range up the middle.
But obviously, this is an early take, without seeing either one of them at third. It could be that Park just takes to third much better than Kurland, for whatever reason. I just like that we have good options, defensively, after what I saw this year. I'm not even sure how much Park will hit, as this will be a big jump, but I think his defense will be needed, regardless.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:20 am to Metaloctopus
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but if we're going to play either Park or Kurland out of their normal position, it is my opinion, right this second, that Park may be the better option at second.
Hasn't Kurland played 2B his entire career at Florida? Putting him there wouldn't be out of position.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:23 am to Metaloctopus
The nuances of playing 3B outweigh the “range” needed to play 2B. Throwing accuracy from 2B also has zero correlation on throwing from 3B.
2B has become the position to place hit-first players when there are questions about the player’s defense. You want your best defenders on the left side.
2B has become the position to place hit-first players when there are questions about the player’s defense. You want your best defenders on the left side.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:23 am to vidtiger23
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It’s not that the idea is foreign it’s that no one knows. I agree with your stance that whoever ends up where will be just fine. They will go over all scenarios in the offseason and end up where is best for the team. Kurland is a great 2nd baseman so if he ends up there we will be just fine. As I’m sure Park as well, although I know less about his game.
Well absolutely, you're right that we don't know for sure. I'm looking at skill sets and making a projection. I don't know that I will ultimately be proven right. It's that one poster gave a bit of a condescending response earlier, as if to suggest that my opinion is absurd. I think it's reasonable, even if it doesn't go the way I think it might.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:26 am to TigerCub
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Hasn't Kurland played 2B his entire career at Florida? Putting him there wouldn't be out of position.
I know that he'd mostly played there, at the very least. But I wasn't talking about him playing our of position at second. I'm saying if anyone has to play out of position (because someone will, no matter what), then if Park ends up the better option at second, you go with it. And if not, well, that's fine.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:36 am to Lester Earl
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The nuances of playing 3B outweigh the “range” needed to play 2B. Throwing accuracy from 2B also has zero correlation on throwing from 3B.
2B has become the position to place hit-first players when there are questions about the player’s defense. You want your best defenders on the left side.
Every position is nuanced. Guys who have accurate arms on the infield tend to be accurate where ever you put them. I'm not sure what nuance you believe makes Kurland less able to play the position. And again, you may be right, we'll see, but it's my opinion right now that these guys are on pretty equal footing defensively, but having the guy who can cover more ground up the middle is more important. You might disagree, and that's fine. We'll see what happens.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 11:06 am to Metaloctopus
Kurland is a career 2B. And was elite there. So you think we’ll play him out of his position and park also play out of his position? Park also has a rope, would be a great fit at 3B.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/13/26 at 11:25 am to CatfishJohn
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Kurland is a career 2B. And was elite there. So you think we’ll play him out of his position and park also play out of his position? Park also has a rope, would be a great fit at 3B.
I've already made my point about this, and it has to do with more than number of errors someone committed. You're entitled to your opinion, as am I.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:31 pm to Metaloctopus
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Guys who have accurate arms on the infield tend to be accurate where ever you put them.
Yes, shortstops. Not 2nd basemen.
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my opinion right now that these guys are on pretty equal footing defensively
Then it makes zero sense to move Kurland to 3B and Parks away from the left side of the infield.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:02 pm to Lester Earl
If a game was played today your infield would be...
1B Braun
2B Kurland
SS Milam
3B Park
1B Braun
2B Kurland
SS Milam
3B Park
Posted on 6/13/26 at 3:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Yes, shortstops. Not 2nd basemen.
This is made up. Someone being a second baseman doesn't mean they are less accurate than a short stop. It's typically a range or arm strength issue, or both.
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Then it makes zero sense to move Kurland to 3B and Parks away from the left side of the infield.
So you quote one part of a sentence and purposefully left out the rest so that you could deliberately take it out of context? I said that they were on pretty equal footing, but I want the guy with better range playing up the middle. Meaning they are both good fielders, both pretty accurate, but there is a separation between the two when it comes to how many balls they can get to. And when it comes to third base, I don't think you need an elite athlete there, you just need sure hands and an accurate arm. range is nice there, but not as important as it is up the middle, in my opinion.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:46 pm to Metaloctopus
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This is made up. Someone being a second baseman doesn't mean they are less accurate than a short stop. It's typically a range or arm strength issue, or both.
The pillars of throwing accuracy are footwork and repetition. Guess what changes when you move to an unfamiliar position? Ya, you guessed it.
If you had to rank the difficulty in tiers, it would be:
Tier 3: SS
TIer 2: 3B
Tier: 1 2b
Moving from SS to 3B is different, but similar enough. And as a SS, you are moving down a tier in difficulty when you move to any other INF position. Not to mention, you are already generally the best defensive player on the infield to begin with.
Parks moving down a tier to 3B makes the most sense(or to the OF, actually). Not moving Kurland up a tier (from a postion he has played for 4 seasons!!). Makes no sense. Repeatedly including the caveat that this is "your opinion" does not make it right or any more logical.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:47 pm to Metaloctopus
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And when it comes to third base, I don't think you need an elite athlete there, you just need sure hands and an accurate arm.
You need an accurate arm anywhere in the infield. You need a STRONG arm to play 3rd. You need to go ahead and sit the rest of this thread out. You’re embarrassing yourself.
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