re: Was Coach more successful in recruiting than expected

Lmao. So Texas has a higher ranked class, by several spots. You would trade?

I try to follow recruiting as much as possible and I'll say yes. This class doesn't have quite the star power some of Miles' later classes had but its got some serious beef on both sides of the ball.

I want to see LSU dominate the LOS on both sides again.

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I just don’t get this statement. People act like 4 and 5 star linemen don’t exist, which is totally not true. Yes, there are more 4 and 5 star skill players, but let’s not pretend that those linemen aren’t out there as well. LSU has gotten their share of them in the past.

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It's mental gymnastics.

No reason you can't fill needs with the top players at those positions.

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many posters on here that I respect a hell of a lot more than you for their knowledge about recruiting have had very positive posts on our class and if we finish with 4 4 stars we will have signed 17 4 and 5 star guys. that sir, is damn good anyway you slice it. it also appears that some of our 3 stars are damn good.

on a personal note.....are you an LSU fan? you really are negative man. nothing LSU does is to your liking.

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I'm convinced that most of the negative MFers on this site never played and don't understand football. The coaching transition from Miles to O was very impactful. We lost some very good players on the OL, Key was a WTF situation, injury to our AA RB, and had a bad break with Shelvin. Now they complain about the class ranking when O wasn't in a position to gamble with NSD.

Giles will be a stud. Fehoko will be a stud. Shelvin will be a stud. Stevens will hit his stride in 18. Vincent and Fulton have elite ability. We already have an AA players at all 3 levels...Lawrence > White > Williams. Chaisson/Delpit/Taylor/Phillips/DivinityThornton/Logan/Alexander have All SEC potential. If we have no injuries or transfers, our D will be among the best in the nation.

Our class won't be Top 5 because we have too many 3* players. We needed depth and I'm glad that O didn't play games (waiting around) right up until NSD. Their current rankings will not determine what happens while they are playing for LSU. I have no problem with our ranking and maybe we'll have more kids playing as Sr's.

He has been talking about the 2019 class since he took over as head coach. If he doesn't pull a top 3 class next year then it's a fail.

Top ten class in 2018 when Louisiana had a down year, while addressing O-line and D-line needs, is pretty good. Lineman don't have many high star ratings. That's why this class looks underwhelming.

Les had high recruited classes because he signed plenty of WR's, RB's and DB's which usually have higher star ratings. Lineman aren't pretty but are the backbone of offenses and defenses IMO.

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Texas accomplished its objectives more successfully than LSU did.
To say you wouldn’t want the Texas class at LSU misses the point.
Apples/ oranges.

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The Texas rankings is a prime example. WR's, DB's have the higher star ratings. They signed 4 WR's and 6 DB's. 3 OT's. Only 1 DL and 1 OLB. They have very good players but they sacrificed good line play and depth for star ratings. On the surface it looks good but their line sucked this year and they didn't get any depth, plus their left tackle declared.

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So we trail Texas, would you swap classes?

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Texas has a good class according to the recruiting services based on sheer number of good players available to them. However, they may not be able to find 5 OL to play for them next season, and they did little to address that issue. Given their class and the holes in their roster, I would not trade classes.

I see the Texas situation similar to LSU this past offseason. They are going to lose a lot of players to attrition simply because they do not like the current situation there (I.e. the coach they signed with is no longer there).

Hell no

Sorry but when the majority of your recruits are guys rated in the 300s your class is not close to elite

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So Texas has a higher ranked class, by several spots. You would trade?

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SMH. You have to be the most ignorant know-it-all in here these days. Why Texas? I have no idea what Texas has. I dont follow their recruiting. I dont follow their conference or their needs to beat Oklahoma or win the Big 12 for that matter.

Just curious, why Texas vs Georgia, Gumps, Clemson, Ohio St, or Penn St?
Pls break down your point so we can learn something from you finally.

Grand Dad, I am surprised at your unbridled optimism.
You don't have to be gullible or suspend critical analysis to be a Tiger Fan, particularly if you want/expect a top program.
Elite recruiting is necessary but not sufficient to win championships from the SEC west. This should be on of Da Coach O's few strong points. I do not see us improving on what Miles delivered in that category. Yes, more linemen, but at the expense of fewer elite RB's and QB's.
It's not bad, by any means, but I certainly don't see that, on balance, we've traded up from Miles