re: Was Coach more successful in recruiting than expected

the ridiculous personal ad-hominem attacks show your insecurity and inability to craft a well-reasoned argument.

Agree. Spoiled brats Let it play out

I take comfort in knowing that there was a strategy and it was followed. We addressed our needs and I'm pleased. The OL coach situation also was managed well (by all involved).

Well reasoned. Lsu has a chance to finish ranked in the top 10 in the nation, and is on the verge of signing perhaps one of the best classes in it's history, in terms of building a complete team. This class may also very well finish in top 10. We just signed a hell of an OL coach, and there is tons of positive energy in the Lsu football program right now. It is obvious to anyone being objective. Yet, you are on here bashing and bitching. Answer a question, would you prefer the class of Texas over lsu's? They are ranked #3.

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Some group of 5 schools will benefit from the hard cap as there will be some quality players still available after the P5 take their picks. Just some thoughts for discussion.

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yes, w/o question there will be a lot of top players left (which there always are) but there probably will be less spots for them so the schools that signed less players in the early period just very well may benefit from their poor start in the end. the aggies and bama are 2 examples. that's weird. I think it will take a couple of years learning curve to master this thing. there will always be some unknowns. for example if you intentionally sign less guys and wait for the "bountiful end game" you could be left holding the bag and have to settle for a lot of lower players.

I think I want to see how this change ends up this year before I decide if it's a good thing or how we should play it. for example, Saban signed all 4 or 5 stars in the early period (could have added after I looked) but didn't sign that many. does that leave more top guys left or less? I just don't know.

right now, I think it's best for coaches not to "play games" until trends develop. in other words, if you have a player evaluated as one that will help your team, sign him but leave 5 or so spots open for the end game (which is what I think O did this year).

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We need to be top 5 to compete in the SEC west

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I completely disagree. miles competed effectively and even won the west w/o having a top 5 class every year. in fact, I think it wrong to put a hard number on what the class ranking should be because that could lead to overloading at some positions just to achieve this "mythical" recruiting trophy. if you are getting 15 or so top recruits a year you should be competing for the west as long as you have balance in the positions you recruited. you can't win with poor showings on DL and amazing amounts of 5 star DB's.

make no mistake, you could be ranked #5 with no OL or DL recruits. look at texas right now; #3 with 3 OL and 1DL recruits and they need them desperately.

La was "down" this yr if you're a star gazer. We absolutely filled our needs and that's what's important. We were desperately in need of beef on the lines and we got it. We haven't had the depth. We're building back up. It's as important as qb play.

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Would you trade our class for that at Texas?

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Absolutely not, see "the Les technique"

No, less successful than expected and anyone saying otherwise is just a pumper. What did you expect if you are saying he exceeded expectations on the recruiting trail?

Most expected him to improve the rankings from the previous HC. One can argue that he he fulfilled needs and the players he chose will end up being higher rated than the rankings. But thats just being a pumper. The rankings are what they are, it is what it is. 247 is the one to use as the best guide imo.

Him getting Traore and Marshall have saved the day and allows a neutral score if can finish out with 3 of the top 4 remaining on their board. Which will be a dog fight. This could get interesting. And Coach O could poach a big time player away from somewhere else thats not on the radar as well.

Im fine with him signing a big time kicker even with the numbers so tight.

Not having a QB committed and signed by now is hard to understand, but it aint over just yet. Losing Rogers to TCU is a tough pill to swallow.