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re: Trey Quinn 10.4 100 meter
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:40 pm to TigerAlum93
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:40 pm to TigerAlum93
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Brazil ran a 4.32 forty at the same camp that Quinn ran a 4.39. Same camp, day, surface, stopwatches, and coaches doing the timing, that is a better comparison.
Really? That's weird. Because Brazil ran his 4.32, with FAT, at The Opening in Oregon in 2012, an event that Quinn wasn't at.
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a sub 4.3 hand timed forty
Is completely worthless
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 5:03 am to Open Your Eyes
Dude, do you know who you are talking too? I think Tigeralum93 would know.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:21 am to TigerAlum93
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Forty times and track times give you an idea if a kid can run, but should not be used to extrapolate, directly compare, an end all tell all, etc.
This is a cop out. You are basically saying we can come on this board and tout a kids hand timed 40, but if his laser or camera timed events don't suggest that the hand timed results are correct, we shouldn't use them.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:10 am to GhostofJackson
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This is a cop out. You are basically saying we can come on this board and tout a kids hand timed 40, but if his laser or camera timed events don't suggest that the hand timed results are correct, we shouldn't use them.
I am not saying anything other than giving you the FACTS, what you want to do with them and the opinions you want to form are entirely up to you. You obviously know more about his kid, football, track, world peace, and every subject known to mankind, but for the rest of the sensible posters who simply like knowing the TRUTH and the FACTS, I present them.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:46 am to TigerAlum93
What "facts" did you present? The 3-4 people on this thread who are presenting real FAT and laser times are all in disagreement with you. You think hand times are more reputable than FAT and laser? I'm interested in seeing you respond to the poster who called you out on Brazil.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:58 am to TigerAlum93
And just a casual glance at some recent pro prospects, many did not run faster, and some ran slower, at their pro combine than their high school 40 times. Which do you think is wrong? The NFL combine?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:53 pm to GhostofJackson
This. Somebody gets it. Saying how "insane" a 10.64 is in the 100 meters is not all that great for the kid himself (or telling him how awesome his time is in the 40, you get the point).
Maybe he reads the message boards, maybe he doesn't. But I think if you asked Quinn himself about his times he'd be the first to tell you it isn't that amazing and that he can improve (assuming he's humble, nothing suggests he isn't).
From this entire debate, I think we can all agree that he's going to be a great athlete on the football field in purple and gold and throughout the course of the track season may improve his times. I'd love to see him run a 10.4 FAT at the state meet.
Maybe he reads the message boards, maybe he doesn't. But I think if you asked Quinn himself about his times he'd be the first to tell you it isn't that amazing and that he can improve (assuming he's humble, nothing suggests he isn't).
From this entire debate, I think we can all agree that he's going to be a great athlete on the football field in purple and gold and throughout the course of the track season may improve his times. I'd love to see him run a 10.4 FAT at the state meet.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:58 pm to tigerwave168
Sorry, last post was in reference to GhostOfJackson's post
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:16 pm to tigerwave168
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Anyone who has been around the sport of track and field and competed collegiately at the division 1 level would agree with what I said. Especially if they were in the SEC. To people who cannot run these times (myself included, I was a long distance athlete in college), it is difficult to imagine running that quickly.
I disputed your argument and I competed at LSU as a sprinter many moons ago.
10.6 in HS given the level of coaching in HS is extremely fast. As I stated that time will win state on most years at most levels. A good coach in college could easily turn that kid into a 10.4.
A 10.6 would have placed 1st in all but 2A last year.
10.4 HS FAT is a very rare level of speed at the HS level. Those guys become near 10 second sprinters when paired with a good college coach.
Hell if you run a 10.4 you make the final 8 at the SEC Championships most years.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:46 pm to bencoleman
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Dude, do you know who you are talking too? I think Tigeralum93 would know.
I have no idea who he is, but unless he makes trey Quinn's name magically appear on the linked page below with a 4.39 next to it, I really don't see how it matters.
LINK
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:44 am to GeeOH
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Landry was not as polished as Quinn in high school.
Gotta love revisionist historians on message boards. Landry was as pollished a route-running WR recruit as you'll ever find. If anything you could argue Quinn is more explosive and Landry is more pollished.
How's that for racial stereotypes?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:53 am to GhostofJackson
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Some ran slower at their pro combine than their high school times
When this happens, how much weight did the individual gain in college? If they added 30-40 pounds, wouldn't you expect slower times?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:29 am to Open Your Eyes
this is 2012 stats, I believe Quinn would have shown up on 2013 but not sure he was there to post stats for 2013
Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:56 am to JJ27
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When this happens, how much weight did the individual gain in college? If they added 30-40 pounds, wouldn't you expect slower times?
No. A true strength and conditioning program doesn't add weight just to add weight. It adds muscle mass that is productive on the field. If at any point someone is getting slower in college for the sake of more weight, that isn't a good sign.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 6:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He definitely made his mark on special teams.
Still laugh about the text I got during that game. "If Auburn doesn't start calling for a fair catch there's gonna be a couple extra seats on their bus."
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 6:13 am
Posted on 4/4/14 at 7:57 am to Hoops
for those that think 10.6 isn't smoking fast.
Just looked up on the LHSAA website the results of last years state championship meet held at Bernie Moore stadium on 5/4/13.
In class 3A 100m finals Jeyrl Brazil won the 100 in a time of 10.64, 7th place in that race was timed at 11.39
In class 4A 100m finals the winning time was 10.65, 8th place was DJ chark with a time of 11.19
In class 5A 100m finals the winning time was 10.63, 8th place was Sione Pallilie with a time on 10.99
Trey Quinn was in the finals of that race but either scratched or pulled up.
That means in his junior year Trey Quinn made it to the state finals of the 5A 100m and made it to the finals. He is listed as a participant in that race, but did not complete the race or either scratched before the race. No reason is given.
Just looked up on the LHSAA website the results of last years state championship meet held at Bernie Moore stadium on 5/4/13.
In class 3A 100m finals Jeyrl Brazil won the 100 in a time of 10.64, 7th place in that race was timed at 11.39
In class 4A 100m finals the winning time was 10.65, 8th place was DJ chark with a time of 11.19
In class 5A 100m finals the winning time was 10.63, 8th place was Sione Pallilie with a time on 10.99
Trey Quinn was in the finals of that race but either scratched or pulled up.
That means in his junior year Trey Quinn made it to the state finals of the 5A 100m and made it to the finals. He is listed as a participant in that race, but did not complete the race or either scratched before the race. No reason is given.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:08 am to boxcar willie
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for those that think 10.6 isn't smoking fast.
Just looked up on the LHSAA website the results of last years state championship meet held at Bernie Moore stadium on 5/4/13.
In class 3A Jeyrl Brazil won the 100 in a time of 10.64, 7th place in that race was timed at 11.39
In class 4A the winning time was 10.65, 8th place was DJ chark with a time of 11.19
In class 5A the winning time was 10.63, 8th place was Sione Pallilie with a time on 10.99
Trey Quinn was in the finals of that race but either scratched or pulled up.
That means in his junior year Trey Quinn made it to the state finals of the 5A 100m and made it to the finals. He is listed as a participant in that race, but did not complete the race or either scratched before the race. No reason is given.
He flinched at the start of the race and got disqualified.
Boxcar, you will soon find that no matter how much logic you use with a certain few posters, they will always think they know more than you, even when you are a little closer to the situation and an actual eye witness to the facts. This IS an LSU board, isn't it? Amazing the great lengths a few of our "fans" will go to to discredit one of their signees. Is it THAT big of a deal to feel like you are right? I do not want to scare them any further by informing them that very few on our current roster/signees ever broke an 11 flat FAT in high school. I think we are all aware of the stereotype by now taht is driving some of this. Any high school 100m time that is sub 11 seconds FAT is usually an indicator of speed that can allow you to compete at a very high level. Does that make you the fastest guy on the field? In the SEC probably not. Will that allow you to simply just out run an SEC DB on a go route? Probably not. If a DB takes one false step or has a breakdown in his technique, will that allow you to create enough separation to complete a pass? Probably.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:10 am to TigerAlum93
wonder how many of our other signees or players on the roster made it to the Louisiana (or their particular state) high school state finals, final heat in the 100m. Probably a few, but not many.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:11 pm to TigerAlum93
Set them straight Alum93 
It's amazing what people think they know, but are really only talking out their backside just to be heard
All I know is this kid is quick, fast, tough, catches anything close and competes at the highest level, what more does this fan base want????
TREY #8
It's amazing what people think they know, but are really only talking out their backside just to be heard
All I know is this kid is quick, fast, tough, catches anything close and competes at the highest level, what more does this fan base want????
TREY #8 Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:20 pm to LCTFAN
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this is 2012 stats, I believe Quinn would have shown up on 2013 but not sure he was there to post stats for 2013
I'm aware of what year it was. The poster I was responding to made the claim that Quinn ran 4.39 at the same camp Brazil ran 4.32. Clearly that is not true
And fwiw, Quinn was not at the opening in 2013 either. LINK
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