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Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92001 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 4:45 pm to
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mpwilging



What's your connection to the LSU track program?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75440 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:28 pm to
How many season did Justin Hunter run track? 1

Its just all bullshite these coaches throw at these kids. nothing more.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130977 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:33 pm to
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How many season did Justin Hunter run track? 1

Its just all bullshite these coaches throw at these kids. nothing more.
Hopefully not BS.

Certainly in terms of LSU track, it would be more a matter of presenting opportunities.
Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1871 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:04 pm to
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We lost Justin Hunter a few years ago
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I know for certain that Justin felt way more love from TN track coaches than LSU track coaches.

As I recall, we lost Justin Hunter because of the slimy shite that Kiffin pulled with Janzen Jackson. TN got Jackson to silently commit to TN while telling LSU he was all LSU. Hunter signed with TN on the first day thinking Jackson was headed to LSU. When Jackson signed with TN after signing day I recall all the banter about how pissed Justin and his Dad were. Heard nothing about track being the deciding factor....
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
16334 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:08 pm to
Justin Hunter had nothing to do with Janzen Jackson.

Edit : you are thinking of another safety not a wr.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 6:09 pm
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33084 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:17 pm to
This thread reeks of Rant
Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1871 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Justin Hunter had nothing to do with Janzen Jackson. Edit : you are thinking of another safety not a wr.

My bad.....it was Darren Myles that Kiffin screwed over.
Posted by BHMTigah
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2010
157 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:36 pm to
Why is LSU getting beat so badly at cheating as well? If LSU is just like the others, they should not lose all of this talent. It makes little sense to me. However, I don't know all of the details.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6916 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:50 pm to
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SPEEDY


The mens program has certainly slipped slowly since Henry left. I can't remember the last time LSU wasn't in the top 15 in TnF much less barely clinging to the top 25.
Posted by pawprints
La
Member since Mar 2008
565 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 8:05 pm to
Brown was recruited by our track for about 3 years. He was highly sought after for hurdles events. Our track coach is from Beaumont and knows the family well. That why his sister is on scholarship with LSU.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 8:23 pm to
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That why his sister is on scholarship with LSU.
Pretty sure she's here because A&M didn't have room for her.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Why is LSU getting beat so badly at cheating as well? If LSU is just like the others, they should not lose all of this talent. It makes little sense to me. However, I don't know all of the details.


This question drums through my head over and over. Repeatedly.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 1/18/14 at 12:28 am to
Quid Pro Quo: Quid pro quo means an exchange of goods or services, where one transfer is contingent upon the other. Nobody does something for nothing: there's always a quid pro quo involved.

Every NCAAF program should have financial aid social workers, benefits specialists, and lawyers who can easily pay for medical bills if the family is too burdened to use public resources. Medical bills are the easiest of all to write off especially with the ACA. It is also a piece of cake to set up an internet fund to tap into private donors. I do not buy that Bama did something "questionable" that any organization could not also do, legally. This year there were a lot of poorer SEC recruit's parents and coaches talking too openly about sending their son to the program that was going to put food on their table, employ them, and put a car in the driveway. Plus every football athlete can receive a minimum of $17,000 in free cash grants and subsidies independent of TAF or REC funds for pocket money.

2016 Olympics weighing heavily on the mind of 2014 LSU CB target Tony Brown

Per Tony, he enrolled early to run track and qualify for the Olympics in 2016 and 2020. The Olympics are his dream, period. He has a chronic football shoulder injury and will likely never play football and risk his Olympic goals if he remains the top hurdler in the nation. Whatever Quid Pro Quo Saban offered Brown to sign LSU could and would have easily matched, legally. Tony was going to choose the school that took care of his track first and sent him to the Olympics, excusing him from football whenever or forever. At the least he will give Saban a probable #1 recruiting class and that will be a face saving feat this year and a recruiting tool.

Saban emphasizes the NFL money 'his recruits made' in his recruiting speech and takes credit for every recruit that ever went to the NFL, even incoming LSU freshmen he never coached. Well so can LSU DBU, quicker, faster.

Saban stayed on as coach only after trolling TX boosters and lawyers to make his housing bubble real estate debts of 20 million go away and jacking up Bama for a 2+ million pay raise "or else" to replace his losses and save him from selling more vacation homes at a loss. He knows a lot about crossing that imaginary line and becoming a bigger shark in the dirty waters of big money collegiate athletics and recruiting. Now if he could just look in the mirror and figure out how he lost the last 2 games against a bunch of 3 star freshmen all Americans instead of firing his staff and berating his team.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19037 posts
Posted on 1/18/14 at 12:57 am to
The OP's point is legit, i.e., perhaps we could land a few more players in football if we could leverage the track angle better. Who could be against that? Whether or not that was a factor or not with Hunter or Brown who really knows.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46756 posts
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Skip Bertman dropped the ball when he LET Pat Henry walk away to A&M


Yep! And that's what happens when you promote a hometown hero to a position in which he has no demonstrated expertise. Same thing when rantards want a past great player to be a coach, or a great coordinator to be a head coach. Just because a guy is great at one thing doesn't mean he'll be great at another.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21483 posts
Posted on 1/18/14 at 11:29 am to
quote:

brown went to bama because of saban...nothing more, nothing less


True, but I am sure he was given some more incentives $$ as well...
No player is drawn to Bama for track...if that was the case he would be at A&M or LSU, even Ark.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5434 posts
Posted on 1/18/14 at 12:04 pm to
CLM has lost control of the LSU Track Coach
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