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re: The future O-line ...... W Clapp & C-Rob
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:17 pm to BuccWildBammer
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:17 pm to BuccWildBammer
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Bama interest boiling down to coaches and success
This is the Saban lie machine at work.
When Saban was at LSU, his big pitch to in state guys was that the very best thing for them would be to stay in state, go to school, build connections, and be set up for the rest of your life. He preached it like it was gospel. Basically said that any kid going out of state was hurting himself.
Now, he actively tries to get kids to leave Louisiana to come play for him so they can be more successful.
Or, so he says. Saban is the best liar in recruiting. He gets the best athletes and he wins. His guys get drafted and then flame out in the pros. Eventually, it will catch up with him, but he'll be nearing retirement by that point so what difference does it make?
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:18 pm to BuccWildBammer
Gotcha. With you on that
I was prepping my page-long response
I was prepping my page-long response
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:22 pm to BuccWildBammer
To say that C-Rob would have more draft success at Alabama than he would have at LSU is insulting. This guy could go to Grambling and get drafted in the first round.
These kids don't even realize that Saban is insulting them by claiming that HE can do more for them than they could get at an equivalent school. It is smoke and mirrors that he uses to get the best talent with his smooth approach. Then, when he has the best talent, he wins. It is very simple.
C-Rob needs to stay home, play in front of family, represent Louisiana, and then get drafted in the 1st round in 3 years after starting at LSU and winning championships with this group of recruits.
(Yes, I am hoping that Cam reads this.)
These kids don't even realize that Saban is insulting them by claiming that HE can do more for them than they could get at an equivalent school. It is smoke and mirrors that he uses to get the best talent with his smooth approach. Then, when he has the best talent, he wins. It is very simple.
C-Rob needs to stay home, play in front of family, represent Louisiana, and then get drafted in the 1st round in 3 years after starting at LSU and winning championships with this group of recruits.
(Yes, I am hoping that Cam reads this.
)
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:26 pm to AlaTiger
At Bama it has to be a different pitch since the in-state talent isn't as stockpiled and is more scarce so now what has it become? It's about the success of Bama in the SEC and putting guys in a position to be drafted which isn't at all a lie and like I reposted to Louie (and am sorry again dpfor not qualifying) Bama has a significant advantage in that department and its not just LSU it's with every other school in the country with OL save maybe Wisconsin, just like LSU is with DBs
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:41 pm to BuccWildBammer
DBU
Thanks for the compliment
Thanks for the compliment
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:53 pm to BuccWildBammer
Well, lot of reasons that LSU hasn't put OLinemen in the first round. That will likely change with Collins this year. Would have been different with Chris Faulk if he had not gotten hurt.
We'll see. But, C-Rob doesn't need Alabama to go in the first round. If Saban is telling him that, I hope it blows up in his face.
Chris Faulk would likely have been a first rounder had he not gotten hurt.
LINK
We'll see. But, C-Rob doesn't need Alabama to go in the first round. If Saban is telling him that, I hope it blows up in his face.
Chris Faulk would likely have been a first rounder had he not gotten hurt.
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The Slidell, La., native prefers tackle, where he earned second-team, all-SEC honors as sophomore, but is open to a position change. Faulk has a thick build and strong hands. He might have been a first-round pick had he returned for his senior season even as several draft analysts observed his footwork and technique need polishing.
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:26 am to AlaTiger
He's not telling him that fwiw he doesn't tell any recruit "You NEED Bama to be successful" however he DOES relay Bama's success
He hardly ever compares to any other schools to kids or parents, just pitches what there is to pitch and before he was winning in his 1st yr he told moms and dads "we will be winning championships in 2 to 3 yrs" and that approach pissed some parents off but he believed it
There is a difference
he doesn't tell any recruit "You NEED Bama to be successful" however he DOES relay Bama's success He hardly ever compares to any other schools to kids or parents, just pitches what there is to pitch and before he was winning in his 1st yr he told moms and dads "we will be winning championships in 2 to 3 yrs" and that approach pissed some parents off but he believed it
There is a difference
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:27 am to I-H8-BAMA
Call a spade a spade 
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:34 am to BuccWildBammer
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BuccWildBammer
Bucc, can you explain why Bama would use the length of time Malachi Dupre sat down and talked to Saban as a recruiting tool? Cause that sounds incredibly egotistical. It's like Saban's words are gold and you should feel blessed just to be in his presence. Also, is their someone who keeps track of these things. Does he sit outside the door with a stop watch and notebook keeping track of the amount of time a recruit talks to Saban? Was there confetti and balloons waiting for Malachi?
Posted on 8/10/13 at 3:06 am to BobBarker
hey bucc, when we skullfrick you all over the field this year do you think it will have an effect on cam's decision? or is it a done deal already?
Posted on 8/10/13 at 9:57 am to BuccWildBammer
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Really original I came on here to have a discussion not a flame fest Everything that is BOL's I relay that as BOL info fwiw but thanks for your concern Harris played the game well it happens I just might know something on CRob (admittedly I do know a good but more on Cam than I did with Harris)
Not flaming. Just stating facts - if you want to talk about Cam Robinson, there's plenty of room for you on the SECRB for you to post about it. Just don't come here to the LSURB spouting off a bunch of bullshite about how big a lead Bama has.
Here's some gems from you about Brandon Harris from this thread: BH
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Lol @ this thread
He is going to AU
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He's going to AU
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Bama's getting Cam Robinson, Cam Sims, and Hootie Jones
AU gets Harris
aTm MIGHT get Noil and/or Tony Brown (although these are least likely)
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DAMEYUNE CRAIG, once he got involved Harris was an AU lock
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Going to AU
It was never "I think he is leaning to AU" or "AU has a lead right now" - it was written in stone by you and passed off as fact, as though you had some inside information. In this very same thread you also repeatedly say that Bama has an 85% lead for Cameron Robinson. Are we to believe that when you were so spot on about Harris?
You pass off your own conjecture as fact, we all know that. Just keep it on the SECRB, you have no credibility here.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:32 am to BobBarker
There was a belief that Dupree made the comment about how long he had been in the office and how he hadn't ever spent expensive time alone with Saban or any HC and he was the one who asked and was told that by some GA (I'm sure you can understand the excitement situation with a GA) and the comments were blown out of proportion and it did seem rather bad and haughty, seemed like that to me no doubt
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:33 am to JayKrewe
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hey bucc, when we skullfrick you all over the field this year do you think it will have an effect on cam's decision? or is it a done deal already?
0.5/10
Should be a competitive game like it always is...looking forward to the game
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:37 am to tigerfan4120
Kid played the game what do you want me to say...I have a couple friends I know on staff at AU that were very confident and he snatched the rug out from under them...I was wrong, this is recruiting.......it happens
I come here and only post respectfully since there are a larger number of posters who I can obtain info from and DISCUSS recruiting with without a thread turning instantly into a dick-measuring contest or an argument
There are still trolls here, but the majority of posters are respectful and will give me thoughtful conversation
I come here and only post respectfully since there are a larger number of posters who I can obtain info from and DISCUSS recruiting with without a thread turning instantly into a dick-measuring contest or an argument
There are still trolls here, but the majority of posters are respectful and will give me thoughtful conversation
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:41 am to BuccWildBammer
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Bama has a significant advantage in that department
How many OL has Cristobal gotten drafted in his only two years coaching the offensive line?
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:51 am to ProjectP2294
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How many OL has Cristobal gotten drafted in his only two years coaching the offensive line?
Word to ya mutha
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:07 pm to ProjectP2294
Better question
How many Bama OL have been drafted
It's funny to bring up Cristobal because he is new and LSU fans know that even though after a yr he will have a better track record than Stud because of the players at Bama
Lets don't kid ourselves P I'm talking about school to school Bama has had more 1st round OL, I don't care who the coach is at either school
How many Bama OL have been drafted
It's funny to bring up Cristobal because he is new and LSU fans know that even though after a yr he will have a better track record than Stud because of the players at Bama
Lets don't kid ourselves P I'm talking about school to school Bama has had more 1st round OL, I don't care who the coach is at either school
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:08 pm to BuccWildBammer
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BuccWildBammer
YGM?
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:18 pm to Memphis
The few times I have crossed Bucc, his homerism has been blinding. Memphis, what's the real scoop on Bucc. He is on our boards constantly.
FYi Bucc, take into account some unfortunate injuries that have plagued LSU and we would have numbers close to Bama's on the O-line. Pretty sure our track record is better just about everywhere else. And, our players tend to perform better in the pros. Not only do we get them to the pros, we prepare them better for the pros. Little Nicky can't scream at you like Mick to Rocky once you leave Bama. That translate to dollar bills. Just sayin. Point. Counterpoint.
FYi Bucc, take into account some unfortunate injuries that have plagued LSU and we would have numbers close to Bama's on the O-line. Pretty sure our track record is better just about everywhere else. And, our players tend to perform better in the pros. Not only do we get them to the pros, we prepare them better for the pros. Little Nicky can't scream at you like Mick to Rocky once you leave Bama. That translate to dollar bills. Just sayin. Point. Counterpoint.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:19 pm to BuccWildBammer
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even though after a yr he will have a better track record than Stud because of the players at Bama
Thanks for proving my point. It has nothing to do with the coaching - it has everything to do with the players. Talking about how many guys Bama has put in the league from the OL is a testament to the players.
Alabama has recruited MUCH better along the offensive line than LSU has in recent years. Chris Faulk was going to be a first round draft choice before he got hurt. La'el Collins will likely go in first round. They were also top recruits. C-Rob is a top recruit. See the pattern? He will go in the first round from either school.
Alabama coaches and Nick Saban lie A LOT. Saban came into Alabama after failing in Miami and lied like crazy about his time at LSU and how he was going to do this and that and the process and whatnot. The thing is, his lies worked, he was aided by the media and the Alabama mystique, recruits believed him, and the snowball turned into an avalanche.
Saban is good coach, but he is the best recruiter we have ever ever seen. Half of his recruiting pitch is built on falsehood, but once he gets the 5-star recruit, his success just grows.
He is a great college football coach.
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