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re: Star rankings for NFL draft Rd.1

Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71106 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:12 pm to
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Just goes to show the ranking systems are sht actually. Only 9? The way they swear by their rankings that's low as hell.


It means that the rating company has roughly a 30% accuracy clip on projections 3-5 years out from the draft. Considering the amount of things that can go wrong in 3-5 years, I'd say that's pretty good.
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
3101 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

looks like 13- 4* vs 9- 5*. You might want to read again.


If you don't know the difference between percent and total I can't help you.
Posted by IotaTiger
Tickfaw, La.
Member since Jul 2011
1102 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:08 pm to
You right, so went to 247 site and we can conclude this.

Every year they only allow/rank 33 5-star players, and 214-4 star

So by percentage it =

5-star 27%
4-star .06%

This 1st round only.HUGE difference.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31253 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
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On3 has it broke down.
5 star -9
4 star -13
3 star -6
2 star -1
Not rated -3

9 out of 32 annual 5 stars 1st rounders. Just thought was interesting.




Ok so lets look at stats I found online with a quick search.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2019/1/30/18202661/recruiting-stars-rankings-high-school-football

310,000 plus HS seniors playing football

30 5* (0.01% of class)
380 4* (0.13% of class)
1,328 3* (0.44% of class)
1,859 2* (0.62% of class)
296,403 unrated (98.88% of class)

Ok so lets make a few assumption. Lets say that the ratios remain pretty consistent for 3*-5* player exiting via the draft. I'll assume that all the 3, 4, & 5* players were signed by a college team.

30 5* = 1.73%
380 4* = 21.86%
1,328 3* = 76.41%

Of this draft

5* =28.13% of first round picks equating to 30.% of the total 5*s available

5* =40.63% of first round picks equating to 3.42% of the total 4*s available

3* =18.75% of first round picks equating to 0.45% of the total 3*s available

As has been discussed over and over again on this board, the recruiting ranking systems seem to be a fairly good predicter of outcome, even if it is not perfect.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31253 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Just goes to show the ranking systems are sht actually. Only 9? The way they swear by their rankings that's low as hell.




WHat an idiot. This shows exactly the opposite.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31253 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

What are there, 100+ 4*s?



Nearly 400 actually
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31253 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:31 pm to
9/30 >> 13/380.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8920 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:38 pm to
Lol. You tried.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5878 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:31 pm to
I think depending on the site but normally like 300+
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1524 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 3:21 pm to
I would love to see a study on pro bowlers in relation to their high school recruiting that be pretty interesting.Also one thing I have looked at before is the ridiculous amount of NFL talent in the south compared to anywhere else in the country.I think there is prolly a difference between a 4 stars from different parts of the country as well.You definitely in recruiting want to load up on 4 and 5 stars as many as you can get and they have a good chance of working out.Obviously if you can sign 25 5stars that be the ticket but realistically 3 5 stars with a bunch of 4 and 3 stars over a 3 year period should land you a good bit of NFL caliber players
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14941 posts
Posted on 4/30/22 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

So by percentage it =

5-star 27%
4-star 6%



5-stars are 4.5x more likely to be drafted in the 1st rd
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27463 posts
Posted on 4/30/22 at 4:55 pm to
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It just reinforces that 4* and 5* rankings get it right a lot because they have far less in recruiting rankings. That means the probability is much higher to have success with 5* and 4* recruits. Also shows how their limited resources are when lots fall through the cracks and develop. It's not rocket science here.



The 4 and 5 star guys usually are the biggest and fastest.

NFL mainly drafts off traits.

The few 2 and 3 star guys that get drafted are just good football players who might run 4.6
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27570 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 4:56 pm to
What happened to Christopher Allen and Slade Bolden




Gumps from da Boot undrafted


I respecked their decision.


Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7385 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

13/300>9/30
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
1555 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 6:33 pm to
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looks like 13- 4* vs 9- 5*. You might want to read again.


Gotta be trolling.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 7:30 pm to
Hit rate on 1st round is terrible only about half end up getting their 5th year option taken, it’s bust or boom the meat of the NFL comes from 2nd to 4th rounds, i think the 2 or 3rd round has best chance of being in the league for 5 years or more
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29660 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Just goes to show the ranking systems are sht actually. Only 9? The way they swear by their rankings that's low as hell.


Good God, I may be too smart for this board. I’ve never said that before about anything.

They only have 33 5stars per class and to get 9 of 33 drafted is extremely good.
It shows that in a vacuum it’s fairly easy to determine who is gonna be really good.

I said I may be too smart for this board, that’s not true, but we’ve got some people in here that make the group as a whole seem stupid
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1811 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:24 am to
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So 4 stars are the best bet



Take a basic math class, I am fricking begging you.
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