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So why was Mike Archer such a bad recruiter?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/7/18 at 1:58 pm
I've seen this come up a few times, today in the Hallman thread on the rant, but I don't think I ever read what made him bad. What did he do or not do? Just didn't try?
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:03 pm to sicboy
Moustaches are creepy to high school kids.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:13 pm to sicboy
Eligibility rules changed. LSU under Arnsbarger did a crap job communicating this to HS coaches and working with them from 9th grade to get eligible
Archer took over and most of the talented guys I. State had no shot of qualifying.
Archer took over and most of the talented guys I. State had no shot of qualifying.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:13 pm to sicboy
I don’t know if his staff were poor talent evaluators or just poor at closing the deal. In those days top talent left the state in droves.
Hallman gets beat up by fans, but Archer destroyed LSU football. Hallman recruited better but wasn’t enough of a coach to turn things around.
Hallman gets beat up by fans, but Archer destroyed LSU football. Hallman recruited better but wasn’t enough of a coach to turn things around.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:25 pm to LSUBadger
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Eligibility rules changed. LSU under Arnsbarger did a crap job communicating this to HS coaches and working with them from 9th grade to get eligible
Archer took over and most of the talented guys I. State had no shot of qualifying.
Prop 48 essentially started his first year. As you state Arnsbarger should have set up the strategy for dealing with it, but for whatever reason it didn't happen. Archer, being a very young first time head coach, was totally unprepared to deal with this kind of shite storm tsunami. We really needed an experience coach during that time period.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:27 pm to Gus007
It seems I have to post this link often when people insist that Curley didn't recruit well. Hallman had Kevin Faulk sewed up and and LSU almost lost him when DiNardo was hired.
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During his senior year, Faulk had developed a close relationship with then-LSU assistant coach Larry Edmondson, who was recruiting him. Then, head coach Curley Hallman and his staff were fired. LSU hired DiNardo from Vanderbilt after its first choice, Texas Christian Coach Pat Sullivan, fell through. In four years at Vanderbilt, DiNardo was 18-26. "I was worried," Faulk said. "Why did they hire a guy who had a similar record at Vanderbilt to the guy they just fired?
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:30 pm to The First Cut
something something doom to repeat it something
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:44 pm to Indiana Tiger
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LSU officials speak fondly of Watkins as one of their first Prop. 48 success stories, along with Calvin Windom, a tailback from Orlando Evans who arrived at the same time.
Their experience has served as a model for those who have followed. Adhering to a program coordinated through the school`s academic center for athletes, Watkins and Windom worked daily with a private tutor throughout their freshman year.
``We chatted the very first day. Slip was obviously very upset about the fact that he had to sit out a year,`` says Dr. Tom Karam, coordinator for the center. ``But he adjusted to it beautifully, almost from the end of that first meeting. I think it really was incentive for him to do well in school.``
meh, they didn't seem to be caught flat-footed.
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:52 pm to sicboy
Lazy
Posted on 9/7/18 at 3:01 pm to The First Cut
quote:Didn't say they did nothing. This is a problem that had to be solved at the high school level and you needed to start years before prop 48 was implemented. Watkins is what is known as a partial qualifier. There were lots of non qualifiers. You had to convince LA schools to get on board or you were fricked and we got fricked.
meh, they didn't seem to be caught flat-footed.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 3:14 pm to sicboy
Listened to big donors getting their guys in.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 3:43 pm to Gus007
RE: George Eames 
The prick claimed LSU was racist (no black QB?...don't exactly remember why). He really hurt recruiting bad. Believe he got caught having sex with 14 or 15 year old.
NOTE: There wasn't racism at LSU back then.
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The prick claimed LSU was racist (no black QB?...don't exactly remember why). He really hurt recruiting bad. Believe he got caught having sex with 14 or 15 year old. NOTE: There wasn't racism at LSU back then.
:angry: :angry: :angry:
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/7/18 at 4:32 pm to The First Cut
In 1987-1988 he signed 8-9 of the Advocate Super dozen those years.
While many didn’t pan out, the rankings of the day show a different picture. Recruiting was NOT his problem.
While many didn’t pan out, the rankings of the day show a different picture. Recruiting was NOT his problem.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 5:31 pm to sicboy
Archer had problems with The NAACP
Posted on 9/8/18 at 1:39 am to The First Cut
quote:Joe Dean.
LSU hired DiNardo from Vanderbilt after its first choice, Texas Christian Coach Pat Sullivan, fell through.
smhPosted on 9/8/18 at 6:30 am to LSUFanMizeWay
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Archer had problems with The NAACP
t$m started a negative recruit war against Archer using the race card then Old Piss jumped on the wagon. It doesn't take losing many recruits to make a difference,specially after losing a ton of talent.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 7:05 am to sicboy
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sicboy
So why was Mike Archer such a bad recruiter?
I've seen this come up a few times, today in the Hallman thread on the rant, but I don't think I ever read what made him bad.
The Archer era we did see a mass exit of recruits and could be somewhat related to Louisiana politics at that time.
Many of you may remember David Duke the clansman elected as Rep., ran for Senate and was almost elected Governor in 1991 when he represented the Republican party against the biggest crook ever Edwin Edwards
Easy to negative recruit against a state that would almost elect a racist clown like this but elected a crooked Edwards.
Archer coaching career ended in 1990 but the political climate in Louisiana was very comical to say the least.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 8:30 am to sicboy
He hated to recruit. Have you seen his wife back then? I would stay home as much as I could too.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 9:28 am to rrboy
Mike Archer was/is a good man. Went to mass every single day.
He just didn't have "it" when it came to recruiting. Part laziness, part bad planning and execution. He lost New Orleans and that killed him. That was when kids from here were going places like Colorado (and impregnating the coach's daughter) and Nebraska.
He just didn't have "it" when it came to recruiting. Part laziness, part bad planning and execution. He lost New Orleans and that killed him. That was when kids from here were going places like Colorado (and impregnating the coach's daughter) and Nebraska.
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