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re: So the rumor is that Tulane's Patrick Jenkins is the target DT from the portal
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:50 am to CatfishJohn
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:50 am to CatfishJohn
Do we know what number we're at right now? Seems like we're right at or under 90. Some kids are going to need to be let go.
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:57 am to Lester Earl
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He was not as good as LSU’s guys(who were meh) going against much, much worse competition
Tulane doesn't play "much,much worse competition"
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:02 pm to GhostofJackson
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Do we know what number we're at right now? Seems like we're right at or under 90. Some kids are going to need to be let go.
Between 88-90 I think, just depends on a few things. We're definitely having some guys transfer out after spring.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:07 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Tulane doesn't play "much,much worse competition"
The AAC lost all its best members this past season. UCF, Cinci and Houston went to the B12, only to be replaced with North Texas, UAB, FAU, Rice, UTSA, Charlotte.
It's definitely a gigantic step down in competition at least last season for sure. Still quite a step down in 2022 as well from the SEC.
No in either case it's not MAC level, but it's still a huge gap. Last season massey had the AAC behind the Sun Belt in his conference ratings, thats how low they've dipped.
I'm also not making any argument about Jenkins here in that aspect, but I think you're playing up the new AAC a bit too much if you dont think its way way way worse than SEC competition wise.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:11 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Tulane doesn't play "much,much worse competition"
Chalky,
What dude?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:17 pm to Lester Earl
JJ Watt on PFF
It’s just not reliable and a bad way to judge players. Better than the average Joe’s eye test but thinking it’s a good way to judge a possible transfer is dumb.
It’s just not reliable and a bad way to judge players. Better than the average Joe’s eye test but thinking it’s a good way to judge a possible transfer is dumb.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:22 pm to redfishfan
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It’s just not reliable and a bad way to judge players. Better than the average Joe’s eye test but thinking it’s a good way to judge a possible transfer is dumb.
PFF is literally used by NFL teams, its not debatable there.
Agian, some player or two hating it doesnt make it invalid. Again, the whole idea here is it' a large collection of data over EVERY snap a player plays. Is everything going to be 100% "right"? Of course not, but over a large collection of data it should make sense generally speaking. This is why it makes sense to use a source like PFF when literally nobody on here has watched more than a half or two of a guy like Patrick Jenkins even play.
Who would you trust more, an unbiased impartial service who grades every single snap of a player or someone who comes on here and goes "he looked great in that 1 half of that 1 game of his 4 year career".
You gotta understand that. People rip into PFF all the time yet have zero alternative to whats a better source other than to say "but look at this 1 example!" The whole idea is it's a great additional source to use to learn about a player you HAVEN'T been watching much. Even players you watch play like LSU every game, you might not have a good feel for a lot of them because again the issue almost every human being has casually watching a game is you only remember the very good or very bad a player did in a game. So maybe you remember 3 of some persons 70 snaps, but thats only a small representation of their overall play in those 3 snaps you remember from a game.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:28 pm to thunderbird1100
JJ Watt stated in that interview that it’s not just kinda off at times. He said that the PFF grades would be night and day from the coaches grades. And I assure the coaches know more than the pff guys.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:36 pm to redfishfan
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JJ Watt stated in that interview that it’s not just kinda off at times. He said that the PFF grades would be night and day from the coaches grades. And I assure the coaches know more than the pff guys.
Again, its not a perfect solution (nothing is, even coaches can have a bias themselves) nor is it ever billed to be. But its used by NFL teams, heck they introduce players with their PFF rank compared to others at their position during broadcasts. It's an impartial view of every snap someone plays and when you aggregate the large amount data it's going to be generally "right". This is way more reliable than someone coming on here and going "oh man I saw him in 1 game and he was really good!"
Again, dont you understand that? Who would you trust more, someone who said they saw someone play briefly and pointed a few plays who might transfer to said school now or an impartial service that grades every single play someone is on the field for? I'm definitely going to lean more on the latter. Again, individual people watching a game casually are only going to remember highlights and lowlights, not 70 out of 70 snaps for 1 specific player unless it's like a QB or something who touches the ball every play.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:40 pm to GhostofJackson
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Some kids are going to need to be let go.
I'd assume after Spring the depth chart will cause quite a few transfers, but yes, a purge is coming. That's just college football in 2024.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:04 pm to thunderbird1100
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But its used by NFL teams, heck they introduce players with their PFF rank compared to others at their position during broadcasts. It's an impartial view of every snap someone plays and when you aggregate the large amount data it's going to be generall
They do that cause collinsworth owns pff and it's his broadcast.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:30 pm to redfishfan
I know that PFF is polarizing. My point is no one here is an nfl coach, or JJ Watt, or someone who watches Tulane to dissect their line play.
You guys can, & will, talk yourself into any transfer though lol. LSU needs a body, sure. I just wouldn’t expect much when he has to line up vs SEC lineman.
You guys can, & will, talk yourself into any transfer though lol. LSU needs a body, sure. I just wouldn’t expect much when he has to line up vs SEC lineman.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:42 pm to Captain Crown
Would be a damn good get. I been watching him for three years at Tulane. Guy is a beast.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:05 pm to tiger_nurse
I agree he would make an impact in LSU's 1 gap scheme this year. Would not surprise me if he comes over and has the best stats of any interior DL on the team next year.
Him coming over still just speculation it seems at this point though..
Him coming over still just speculation it seems at this point though..
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:41 pm to Lester Earl
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He was not as good as LSU’s guys(who were meh) going against much, much worse competition He is a body they could use at this point for sure, tho
You didn’t watch a Tulane game clearly. I watched one and it was Ole Miss. Their Dline was at a different level from ours and specifically their interior.
I don’t know this dude, but if he played in that game in the interior he’s better than anyone we have.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:59 pm to tibebecolston
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You didn’t watch a Tulane game clearly. I watched one and it was Ole Miss
I watched 11-12 & went to 3 in person lol
Posted on 4/5/24 at 1:52 am to thunderbird1100
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Again, its not a perfect solution (nothing is, even coaches can have a bias themselves) nor is it ever billed to be. But its used by NFL teams, heck they introduce players with their PFF rank compared to others at their position during broadcasts. It's an impartial view of every snap someone plays and when you aggregate the large amount data it's going to be generally "right". This is way more reliable than someone coming on here and going "oh man I saw him in 1 game and he was really good!"
PFF grades used during broadcasts have nothing to do with NFL teams, it does however have something to do with broadcasters though.
I have a problem with any grading system that any average Joe off the street can sign up to be an evaluator and then to do so without knowing the play call or the player's responsibility on any particular play that the evaluator is responsible for grading.
I often look at PFF scores and wonder what game they were watching, because it was not the game I witnessed and I do have coaching experience.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 4:13 am to Lester Earl
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You guys can, & will, talk yourself into any transfer though lol.
Its already hard to begin with to take you seriously,but don't put lol after a sentence. What are you 12?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:52 am to Lester Earl
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& went to 3 in person lol
Out of respect to others, did you sit in the back row of your section? Because you're really tall.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:36 am to Captain Crown
Not bad. Seen worse.
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