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Since recruiting is dead, this forum needs to change its title to Newly Purchased Players!

Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:08 am
Posted by homemadeshine
Member since Dec 2024
152 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:08 am
Since the introduction of NIL and the revamping of transfer rules, colleges no longer have to recruit players to its schools, because the reality is all the top players are only interested in one thing - how much can you pay me.
Posted by Salty Spec
South Louisiana
Member since Nov 2022
258 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:31 am to
Yes. Because no one ever got paid before!
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14366 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 7:55 am to
Give this stupid shite a rest. It’s been “pay for play” for over 50 years now and anyone who thinks it wasn’t is either and idiot or was not paying attention.
Posted by 904
Forever under I-10
Member since Dec 2009
959 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:23 am to
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Give this stupid shite a rest. It’s been “pay for play” for over 50 years now and anyone who thinks it wasn’t is either and idiot or was not paying attention.

Of course under-the-table money was always factor, but the pay was a drop in the bucket and only limited to a handful of players compared to what it is currently.

Money is now the singular driving force in recruiting, whereas it was literally everything about a program pre-NIL that mattered, from relationships to coaching reputation to NFL preparedness, facilities, atmosphere, proximity to the school, a mother's fandom ... and yes, a dodge charger or two, etc.

The whole "players were always getting paid" angle is surface-level thinking as it was never pay-to-play and unrestricted free agency like it is now. Recruiting used to be fun, especially when you could watch those potentially recruits develop into superstars over the course of 3-4 years at your program.



This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 9:51 am
Posted by Gumpsbleaux
Texas
Member since Jan 2021
271 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:56 am to
All those things you mentioned still matter. Obviously money matters as well but there are plenty of kids who have taken a little bit less in money to go to the school they actually want to attend. Not saying a kid would take a massive pay cut to do that but most of the time the money is similar or at least close among the players top schools, in that case everything else you said matters. The schools that win the most are still signing the best players
Posted by Donkus
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2013
1209 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:32 am to
Why, you still have to sell your facilities and coaches if the money is even.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53892 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:44 am to
I still like the name
Posted by 904
Forever under I-10
Member since Dec 2009
959 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:45 am to
I'm not disagreeing that those things matter if the money is about the same, but money now matters far more than anything else for the majority of players in a way that nothing did before.

The fact is, if a hypothetical Akron Zips billionaire alum all-of-a-sudden wanted to win a football championship for a school that has been completely irrelevant for their 130 year history, he could go out and throw millions at a roster (and staff) and be immediately competitive in the playoff picture, which wouldn't have been possible before because the individual traits of a program and school that make it unique used to matter the most, not just money. CFB is losing its identity and becoming more and more like the sanitized NFL.




Also, the money usually isn't the same.


This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7031 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:52 am to
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Give this stupid shite a rest. It’s been “pay for play” for over 50 years now and anyone who thinks it wasn’t is either and idiot or was not paying attention.


Lmao at all of this. It’s a whole new world. You are the idiot if you think it’s anywhere near the same or that people should still be as engaged. What made college football great is pretty much dead. It is what it is. We had it so good growing up.
Posted by B1rdman15
The Office
Member since Feb 2010
5171 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 10:10 am to
Thought this was a whitty post, didn't you?
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16700 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Because no one ever got paid before!

Generally speaking, if you Will.
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
5084 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:28 pm to
I mean it is free agency now so....and I mean yeah players have always been paid but you got kids.... starting QBs hopping from school to school. They HAVENT always done that lol.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
946 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:22 pm to
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for over 50 years


its totally different now. infinite transfers is single year contracts and free agency. every year is a tryout for a higher paying school. never was that before.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13117 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 7:46 am to
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What made college football great is pretty much dead.


What made it great was illegal. Bottom line. Most criminals enjoy the life crime offers them until they're caught.
The schools, conferences and NCAA were making billions off kids they didn't have to pay. Room, board, scholarship, about 100,000 grand a year I'd guess. 85 players would be 8.5 million a year. Now they're conceding a percentage of the money which for the SEC is about 20 million per, max as its capped at that number. They concede that much. How much are they holding? How much have they made over the years if they're wiling to concede to jump from 8 to 20? What entitles them to keep that money? We seem to forget who the real bad guys are in all of this. The schools, conferences and NCAA. Blame them for ruining the game not the kids actually playing. Their greed is solely responsible for the dilemma the game now faces. If they were sharing all along it wouldn't have elicited the anarchy the system currently faces. Extortion being challenged by blackmail.
The mind blowing part is that the powers seemed to have been surprised about being called on their extortion. They had to see this coming and should've planned accordingly. Seems they were betting on privilege getting them through it unscathed. Seeing as the original O'Bannon case is decades old now, it worked for awhile. Then the "woke" agenda proliferated our great country and even the "woke" aren't safe from the crowd leading that charge.

All that to say, I agree the game we loved is ruined. The disagreements are about the responsible parties.
Posted by 904
Forever under I-10
Member since Dec 2009
959 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:03 pm to
It's deeper than this. The schools and conferences are all individual entities who are acting within their best interests in order to remain competitive, because the alternative is to NOT try to make as much money as possible to pay for facilities, salaries, NIL payments, etc. that are used to woo the best athletes and coaches in the nation and then fall behind their counterparts, which will also affect academic enrollment. And ultimately, almost all of the schools would need to put their individual interests to the side for the good of the sport, otherwise just 1 program out of 100+ is a drop in the bucket and changes nothing. Tragedy of the Commons, except even more extreme in that they're directly competing with each other.

The NCAA did what they could to delay the inevitable for as long as possible, but ultimately it has been shown that they no longer have any power after all of the court rulings. This was always going to be the result with capitalism as the laws are written and with CFB skyrocketing in popularity (and revenue) from inception until today. I'm not sure if there's anyone specifically to blame other than previous federal gov regimes, because there's no way for our founding fathers could've taken into account that a sport that didn't exist yet probably shouldn't be subject to the articles and amendments to the Constitution. If anyone, it's the federal government and the supreme court for not recognizing that America's most popular sport is in deep turmoil while also endangering all other sports at collegiate institutions, and new laws or exceptions need to be written for a very unique sport and situation. This can't be a state matter either because no state will want to intentionally put their flagship institution's football program (major fundraiser) at a disadvantage relative to their peers.

Greed has a bit to do with it as well but most of it can be chalked up to the incentives above IMO, so that's why we need the federal government to step in here and start doing what's best for CFB as a whole again, because no-one else has any reason to do so, whether that's the schools, conferences, state governments, or TV networks. The NCAA has tried, but they're now completely neutered and toothless because of how the current laws in this country are written.
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
522 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:44 pm to
Does this board have an admin? Kinda shocked a thread as dumb as this is still live
Posted by ansertiger
Member since Sep 2023
94 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Does this board have an admin? Kinda shocked a thread as dumb as this is still live

They entered the transfer portal last April
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17770 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:35 pm to
Our sub contractors vs Theirs. Lovely
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