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re: Shea says to not be surprised if Cai Bates doesn't end up in this class

Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:42 am to
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I don’t want any full time positional coach having to learn on the job. That’s what shadow staff is for.


I don't disagree with you in general, but there's obviously a bunch of stuff most of us never see like their relationships with players and how they coach during practices. If they see potential in steeples then maybe they fire cooks and bring in a coach that can help mentor steeples to his potential.

I think there has to be a balance on the continuity side as well. Hiring and firing all our secondary coaches in year 2 might raise more red flags.

Again, all speculation from me looking from the outside in. Will be interesting to see what coaching changes are made at year end, if any.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26904 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:44 am to
Every DB they got in the portal in 2023 had at least two years of eligibility left. The issue is they either didn't hit, had injuries or discipline problems.

In 2022 they almost all hit, but most only had a year left.

Zy and JK Johnson should be back. Denver and Duce, likely not.

Certainly want to build through high school, but that doesn't mean the portal is not on the table. Even teams with well-established coaches that aren't cleaning up messes from previous regimes are using the portal. Except Dabo, of course.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:52 am to
They already got a replacement for Cai. Causey.
Posted by JClsutigerfan
Member since Jun 2021
586 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:53 am to
This is getting ridiculous. We better have some changes in the secondary coaches following this year. The play on the field and recruiting has been abysmal
Posted by Tigerguru96
Member since Nov 2018
910 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:55 am to
The 2 highest rated CB’s leave the class when that’s one of the most important positions we need to address….awesome
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94667 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:02 pm to
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This portal for a year isn’t working


We're going to have to portal in another couple starters this year aren't we? We can't get out of this cycle and what a mixed bag it's been. Fouche, Garner and Brooks were solid. Then there was Pig Cage, Chestnut, Harris, Banks and Johnson
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
In your head
Member since Apr 2022
600 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:06 pm to
They can replace him, sure. Problem is, can they replace him with a player of better or equal quality? Lots of those off the board.

And for those who say Bussey - he just doesn’t have the length and other attributes that make Cai Bates a valuable corner.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7403 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:06 pm to
Wrong
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
In your head
Member since Apr 2022
600 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:12 pm to
About what? Please be specific and give examples of who they can go after that they could reasonably get
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10418 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:22 pm to
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This portal for a year isn’t working


It's not ideal but recent teams have seen success via the portal. FSU is the most recent example of this.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7403 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:22 pm to
Causey gonna surprise you
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10480 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Good news is that when the staff loses a player they immediately get back to the board and replace.



Replacing a lost player with another player isn't an issue.

Replacing a lost player with another player that's just as good is the challenge.

Bates is a Top 100 CB. Are we going to replace him with another Top 100 CB?
Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
687 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:27 pm to
Steeples days are numbered
Posted by Jrod34
Member since Aug 2023
62 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:30 pm to
Dont worry im sure lsu will replace him with an awesome top 1200 3 star
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Tigerguru96
Member since Nov 2018
910 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Good news is that when the staff loses a player they immediately get back to the board and replace.

Replacing our 2 highest rated CB’s with 3 star players isn’t gonna get very many of us excited. LSU is about to have 1 cb committed that is ranked inside the top 100 cb’s in the country. Uga gonna have 4 of the top 20 yet BK said we’re supposed to be catching then through recruiting
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
757 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:32 pm to
Bro this what I been saying. Both those corner commits were close to Steeples. I think the writing is on the wall that BK told him he’s being replaced lol. Maybe they told the recruits that as well and they started to look around.
Posted by Tigerguru96
Member since Nov 2018
910 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Bates is a Top 100 CB. Are we going to replace him with another Top 100 CB?

No we aren’t. Hope we get another 3 star cb that projects at nickel tho. Don’t have nearly enough of those
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Both those corner commits were close to Steeples. I think the writing is on the wall that BK told him he’s being replaced lol. Maybe they told the recruits that as well and they started to look around.


This seems illogical. You're saying both these players were really close to steeples, but Kelly has already decided to fire him even though our defense has improved over the season, we still have something to play for, and both these high rated recruits are close to steeples?

Then Kelly went and told recruits about a future firing of a coach they are both close with? Why would Kelly do that? What's the benefit to doing that?

Why not wait until you have a better coach lined up to replace steeples before notifying recruits if that's true? Also, why would you tell a current coach he is going to be fired mid season when you still have a shot at SEC West champs again?
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
1849 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:47 pm to
Yea that doesn’t make sense. If he was recruiting well but they wanted to go a different direction they’d do it after signing day

They wouldn’t let be known if it’s costing you recruits
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
757 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:00 pm to
What if BK has someone really good lined up to replace him?
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