re: Saban/Smart calling for more regulation on NIL

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Time to just have a minor league and start a second, amateur only college league.

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This has been the answer for so long.

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Time to just have a minor league and start a second, amateur only college league.

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This has been the answer for so long.

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I became an Ivy League fan about two weeks ago.

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However, he was up front about the NCAAA allowing college free agency. He straight up told you it wasn't beneficial overall for the game

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The only reason he was "up front" about it was because he was playing the game better than everyone else when it was still in the shadows. Of COURSE he didn't want everyone else to have the same opportunity to pay players that he's had for over a decade.

Now he has to out-bid other teams with MUCH DEEPER pockets for the types of players he's built his dynasty on. And he can't compete; there isn't enough money in the entire state of Alabama to out-bid teams like 8-4, the Whorns, or any other team in a state with an industry or economy that literally PRINTS MONEY (and there's no money like oil money, amirite?)

And, let's not forget that Auburn (yeah, the OTHER team in Alabammy) can now spend just as much money on players as Bama, and they hate the Gumps with a passion.

I'm betting the "competition" between those two teams is going to start looking like a knife fight in a phone booth now that Bama doesn't have exclusive access to their "secret weapon" any more; The NCAA took the Gump's secret sauce and made the recipe completely open-source for all the other teams to use and enjoy too.

Screw the angry little munchkin, let him whine. Like I said in another post: I hope they don't reform NIL until Bama is destroyed by having to play the game on a level field.

EDIT: Wanted to add that the "Bama/Auburn knife-fight in a phone booth" I was referring to was in recruiting.

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Time to just have a minor league and start a second, amateur only college league.

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It'll never happen. CFB has become such a money-maker for schools that they'll never let that cash cow wander into another pasture.

If a NFL "minor league" is ever set up the money will go with it because players with a chance to turn pro will NEVER go to college.

Think about it: name one college or university baseball team that garners as much attention - and brings in as much money - as a mediocre college football team?

You can't, because they don't exist. Any players worth a damn are drafted right out of high school and never make it to college.

Don't get me wrong, though: I'm not against the idea of a minor league. In fact, I think it would be a good thing for just about everyone - except the schools that are making bank off the current system.

One other player that would fight the change - the broadcast networks that make even MORE money off of CFB than the schools. Do you think that anyone would actually care about a CFB "playoff" if the best players are already sucked out of the game before they ever get to college?

Alumni and school supporters might care, but that's a mighty small audience compared to the national frenzy whipped up every year by the chase to be "national champion".

And that's why I don't think it'll ever change. Or, if it does, it'll probably be closer to the CBB "one and done" rule, where NBA-ready players still have to play for one year at the college level before turning pro. That way, colleges get to field good teams, the networks get to make bank off of March Madness, and the players only have to wait a year before turning pro.

More likely, though, is that CFB will continue being the media and money-making monster that it has grown into with little or no change. Just my opinion.....

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Saban complaining about this is just comical

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A&M beat him out in recruiting. He knows that not even he can compete with A&M money. Same with Smart.

This is the only reason they're complaining - because they know schools like A&M and even Texas have a much higher ceiling than they do.

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Now he has to out-bid other teams with MUCH DEEPER pockets for the types of players he's built his dynasty on. And he can't compete; there isn't enough money in the entire state of Alabama to out-bid teams like 8-4, the Whorns, or any other team in a state with an industry or economy that literally PRINTS MONEY (and there's no money like oil money, amirite?)

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Ask me how I know you don't have a clue about how things work. Saban was up front in telling you if the NCAA wants to pass stupid rules he will use them to his benefit. And, he did.

You let your hate for Saban cloud what he's been telling you will benefit bama. Aggy has one booster in the top 10 of big time boosters in college football. He isn't worth as much as Phil Knight.

Saban right now is looking to keep the game of college football somewhat competitive across the board. If this full blown unadulterated NIL takes hold over an extended period of time without regulation, it will be terrible for the game itself.

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I'm betting the "competition" between those two teams is going to start looking like a knife fight

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bullshite. Who would you rather play for ? Saban or Harson ?

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Like I said in another post: I hope they don't reform NIL until Bama is destroyed

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How I know you've lost all reason.

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Ask me how I know you don't have a clue about how things work. Saban was up front in telling you if the NCAA wants to pass stupid rules he will use them to his benefit. And, he did.

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I guess you didn't see that I was making a different point. Yes, you can use the rules to your maximum advantage, and he's a master at that (he is, after all, a branch on the Belichick coaching tree).

I see it differently, though. It's been an open secret for YEARS that Bama was buying the best players available before it became legal via NIL. Did other teams do it? Of COURSE they did.

But, did other teams do it as blatantly, as unashamedly and with as much gusto as Bama? Not a chance. Saban and Bama broke the "rules" and outright DARED the NCAA to do something to them because of it.

I'm not sure what Saban's angle was before NIL, but I bet he didn't bank on the NCAA taking the secret sauce he's been blatantly stirring in to his teams for years and giving it to everyone else.

Hence, the complaining.

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Saban right now is looking to keep the game of college football somewhat competitive across the board. If this full blown unadulterated NIL takes hold over an extended period of time without regulation, it will be terrible for the game itself.

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I really don't know how to respond to this one. Let's just say this: Saban is probably the best CFB coach, ever. No competition, and no argument from me.

HOWEVER: It's easy(er) to build a consistently dominant team when you're buying the best available players every year, and when no other team has the hutzpah to do it as blatantly and brazenly as you do.

And, now that the cat's out of the bag, you don't get to don the mantle of "protector of the integrity of the game". Saban is about winning. Period. He'll use every ounce of his (considerable) skill to out-coach you and maximize the rulebook to his advantage against you.

AND, he'll also bend other rules as much as he can get away with and dare you to do something about it, and he'll do it to an extent that no other teams would do so brazenly.

That last bit is what puts him and his teams consistently at the top. And, now that everybody can do it, he's just a little more mortal, and he doesn't like it.

TLDR: Saban's not protecting the "integrity of the game", he's protecting his ability to bend the rulebook to his advantage in ways that other teams would never dare to do as openly as he does.

Let's talk about those church accounts.

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Like I said in another post: I hope they don't reform NIL until Bama is destroyed

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How I know you've lost all reason.

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Okay, another take:

Bama has been playing the "buy the best players" game better and more brazenly than any other team for a LONG time. And NOBODY wanted to talk about the elephant in the room and deal with the problem until now.

So, if you're not going to punish Bama for breaking the rules, then the next best thing is to change the rules so everyone has the same opportunities.

Bama flaunted the rules, and brought this result on all of CFB. I'm sick of Bama breaking the rules to the disadvantage of everyone else, and I have no faith in the NCAA actually holding Bama to account for breaking the rules.

So, if this is what it takes to finally take away the UNFAIR advantage that has helped Bama and Saban, then so be it. Once Bama is feeling the same pain as everyone else, maybe THEN the hacks in Birmingham and Indy will do something about it.

So, TLDR: I dislike NIL, but I hate the way Bama has broken the rules to disadvantage other teams even more. And I truly hate that the NCAA did NOTHING to stop Bama.

If the NCAA had done something about this problem in the first place, maybe NIL wouldn't be needed to finally deal with Bama cheating.