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re: Ruffin Rodrigue on instate recruiting
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:06 pm to PapaRon
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:06 pm to PapaRon
quote:
Wrong - 69 grad been working in Alabama for 25 years
Were you a stud football prospect who scorned Alabama to attend LSU, only to return to Alabama with a General Studies degree, at best, and found nice, high paying job?
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:06 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I truly believe this is the case. I know for a fact that Chase just got on with a local(BR) construction company and will be doing very very well starting out.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:06 pm to baytiger
It is not a threat to kids. It is an additional opportunity to stay in state. As I said above, businesses do not "reward" faithful LA recruits and "punish" unfaithful recruits. Businesses try to leverage an athlete's good will. That good will has a value above and beyond whatever (often limited) skills they bring to the table. If a former athlete is known and loved by a lot of people, that has a value to a business. Conversely, if a former athlete is remembered for publicly spurning LSU and possibly lying to the coaches he has none of this "good will" to market and better be able to rely on his skills to get a job.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:07 pm to baytiger
quote:
why do we resort to threatening kids' livelihoods to try to keep them in state? There's lots of good reasons to go out of state and there's no need to bash people for it.
I see this thread not as threatening but a discussion of realities and possible perceptions ...and its true whether you are from Alabama or Mississippi or other similar sized states. Staying home usually leads to an easier road in smaller states.. I would suspect that Texas and Florida dont hold the same mentality with the abundance of schools and allegiances.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:11 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
The people that think there isn't a lot of truth to this are insane. My first job out of college was in engineering sales with a very well know company. The hiring manager was an LSU grad and it was obvious he was a huge fan by the decor of his office. My uncle is a pretty well known former player. All it took was for me to mention him in casual conversation and the job was pretty much mine. Was it the only reason? Probably not. But if all things were equal amongst the other candidates, I can assure you it don't hurt. He ended up getting to meet him at a tailgate and we still keep in touch today.
I guess my point is that if it helped me to be related to a former player, it sure as hell helps former players.
I guess my point is that if it helped me to be related to a former player, it sure as hell helps former players.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:17 pm to Tigersfan
I wouldn't hire Landon Collins or Gerald Willis to scrub my toilets after this. Hopefully they are very successful and have long NFL careers and are smart with managing their money.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:19 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
With 2 equal candidates, I will agree with you on this. I took your original statement as you would only hire from instate schools no matter what.
Geaux Tigers!!
Geaux Tigers!!
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:21 pm to Captain Ron
quote:
Were you a stud football prospect who scorned Alabama to attend LSU, only to return to Alabama with a General Studies degree, at best, and found nice, high paying job?
again, the assertion was made that regular folk faced the same problem getting jobs out of state with an LSU degree vs. a local degree....which is a ridiculous statement. That was the reason for the comeback.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:26 pm to fbb
quote:
These kids know they are leaving Louisiana. This is a tired argument.
these kids don't know that. you give an 18 yr old too much credit for planning out their futures. and it's not an arguement, it's the truth. unless they get their degree they may regret leaving the state one day.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:37 pm to ForeLSU
quote:
for former athletes it's pretty easy to land a job in sales because companies know clients will want to associate with them. The don't have that same appeal 5 states over.
Hell, present athletes have access to jobs that are not made available to the public.
Off the top of my head I can think of so many student athletes from LSU that are in sales, insurance, finance, medical equipment, pharmaceutical, etc.
Many are still involved in sports related businesses, administration included. It really is nothing more than networking, and that will more readily happen for a local product rather than an out of state kid, unless he becomes a household name.
There are obvious exceptions, but raw data will definitely show the benefit of staying home.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:39 pm to wahoocs
quote:Are these jobs not available in other states at other schools?
There are obvious exceptions, but raw data will definitely show the benefit of staying home.
Would you deny Russell Shepard or Patrick Peterson a job b/c they weren't from Louisiana?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:42 pm to fbb
quote:
So if Matt Mauck wanted a job in Louisiana with an LSU-friendly company, could he get one?
Mauck had an open invitation to LSUSD. After a couple of seasons in Denver, he chose to stay and attend dental school there, I believe.
He practices in Denver now.
A better question would be Rick Clausen. I'm sure businesses everywhere in LA have clients dying to know about his experiences as a Tiger.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:43 pm to The Mick
"...you're not going to be able to come back and get a job."
Give me a break.
Give me a break.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:43 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
quote:
He basically said if you want to get out of the state thats your right but you're not going to be able to come back and get a job. You better not get hurt and you better make it in the NFL (which stands for not for long) because you can't come back thats the way it is. He said you better want to live in Gainseville or Tuscaloosa. Cited Chase Clement who got a job at a construction company. On the other end cited a friend of his who went to A&M and couldn't get a job back in Louisiana. Made a joke saying "I'm and idiot and I run one of the best restaurants in the area".
This is fricking retarded.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:46 pm to Will2nd
quote:
The question is without the NFL, would he have the foundation?
Yes. His mother was murdered while he was in high school. Yes, yes he would have. Warrick Dunn is absolutely an exception to the rule.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:46 pm to Tiger n Austin
quote:Exactly. He's acting like Louisiana is this mecca for job opportunities. It's why people from all of the world flock to its Fortune 500 companies.
This is fricking retarded.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:47 pm to supersaints9
Right or wrong, they are portrayed as traitors to the State of Lousiana. 
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:48 pm to Mahootney
quote:
Exactly. He's acting like Louisiana is this mecca for job opportunities. It's why people from all of the world flock to its Fortune 500 companies
This.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:59 pm to Mahootney
quote:
Would you deny Russell Shepard or Patrick Peterson a job b/c they weren't from Louisiana?
First off, both of these guys are on NFL rosters.
Secondly, you are trying to ignore the obvious to prove some Utopian point you have.
It has been proven that even the successful NFL players blow through everything they get, and at some point, are left to rely on their connections to more successful people.
Odds are ex-college players will benefit more from the goodwill of those they grew up playing with and around in their local community.
Why are you trying to make this brain surgery?
90 percent of the responders in this thread get the idealistic point you are trying to make, but they live in the real world here, where we can all name ex-LSU players doing well in the business community in LA.
Why don't you start by naming some of the players who left the state and now enjoy great jobs because of their playing days at said college, without the benefit of being a household name.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:32 pm to wahoocs
2 points
1. If you don't believe being a previous LSU Stud has its benefits... GO into a business in Lafayette with Jamie Howard! They will kiss his feet (Even with the interceptions at Auburn) that is one of the reasons he is so successful. A large portion of his money is made out of the city too.
2. I made this exact point 2 hours ago an my post gets whacked!
1. If you don't believe being a previous LSU Stud has its benefits... GO into a business in Lafayette with Jamie Howard! They will kiss his feet (Even with the interceptions at Auburn) that is one of the reasons he is so successful. A large portion of his money is made out of the city too.
2. I made this exact point 2 hours ago an my post gets whacked!
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