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re: Ruffin Rodrigue on instate recruiting
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:51 pm to TROLA
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:51 pm to TROLA
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Is it the same in other states eg; Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, and the like.. I would be willing to guess to a point...yes.. Buts its probably easier for the hometown/state kid to find a job.
See heres the thing, they are more prone to do it for kids who are from the area. Ive seen former LSU players in positions that they werent qualified for. Ive seen a few guys who werent from Louisiana in those, but they arent as abundant. My guess is if there is one position open and one applicant is from BR/NO and the other is from TN, the local guy gets it.
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:51 pm to Geauxld Finger
Huh ? Michael Clayton lives in tampa about 3 blocks from me . When my son was going through major surgery he came to visit him
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:52 pm to TROLA
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Is it the same in other states eg; Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, and the like..
yes...Bobby Humphrey worked for Bryant Jr's cement company for a while. I think he mainly just made appearances, played golf, etc.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:53 pm to TampaTiger22
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Michael Clayton lives in tampa about 3 blocks from me
he does now after he had another cup of coffee in the league with the Giants, but when he was having his alcohol problems and was out of the league for awhile, he was living back in Louisiana i believe.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:53 pm to fbb
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It might be the truth, but I don't think it makes any particular point. Every decision that every recruit makes potentially closes some doors and opens others.
Take any one of Bama's recruits, regardless of where they're from, and tell them, "I hope you like Tuscaloosa, cause it will be hard to get a job in Baton Rouge if you need one." They won't care. They do like Tuscaloosa.
The ones that leave Louisiana want to leave Louisiana. They're replaced by out-of-state guys who want to come here and develop roots. It goes both ways.
Absolutely correct... But often times these guys come crawling back to the only life they know. They spend 4 years in a meat grinding bubble and then it ends and the only "real life" they know is in LA.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:54 pm to PapaRon
quote:Right! Your in Alabama.
Wrong working in Alabama got 25 years.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:54 pm to TN Bhoy
I hope Speedy likes driving a UPS truck in the lower 9th. 
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:57 pm to lsuhunt555
The business reason for this is that people in LA have a ton of good will for former LSU players. If Toshiro Davis or Landon Collins flop in the NFL and want to come back, the opposite dynamics are in play. What business, firm, or practice is going to be interested in hiring the guy because of the bad will they established when they very publicly spurned LSU? Unless they have a specific skill set to offer, they have no good will to be able to bank on. Businesses don't "reward" faithful athletes or "punish" unfaithful ones. They are taking a gamble on the athlete's fame and good will (on its own and without consideration of other skills the athlete has to offer) providing a competitive advantage against their business competitors. It is not hard to fathom and it is perfectly natural.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:57 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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Absolutely correct... But often times these guys come crawling back to the only life they know. They spend 4 years in a meat grinding bubble and then it ends and the only "real life" they know is in LA.
Yep. There will be washouts and broken dreams and plenty of kids that wished they had done it differently.
I just don't think that the 'burning bridges' angle should give LSU any recruiting advantage, because it happens all over.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:58 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
this discussion reminds me of that 30 for 30 episode, the 'Best That Never Was', guys whole livelihood after football was based on the sheriff of his Po'dunk Miss. town...Sheriff was a big ol' bigot too If I remember right... 
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:58 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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It's the same for regular professionals. An LSU grad isn't as likely to get a job in Florida or Georgia.
Really, man? I could not care less what state your degree is from. If you are qualified you are qualified. Really dumb statement. If a hiring manager hires only based on what state your degree is from, they are really hampering the potential success of their business.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:58 pm to ForeLSU
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yes...Bobby Humphrey worked for Bryant Jr's cement company for a while. I think he mainly just made appearances, played golf, etc.
And hes from Alabama I believe.. Im just of the thought that its even easier for the kid that stays home. I would suspect that all the big schools take care of their own but again easier for the hometown boy..
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:59 pm to Fall Creek Tiger
quote:You are a poor businessman if you cant grasp this concept.
I could not care less what state your degree is from. If you are qualified you are qualified. Really dumb statement.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:00 pm to Fall Creek Tiger
Certainly qualified individuals will get jobs but I'm just saying in a list of pros and cons when evaluating competing candidates, going to the home state school is one of those pros. If you don't understand that then sorry.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:00 pm to TN Bhoy
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I do believe it, but it's just an absolutely idiotic reason to not hire someone
You've got it wrong, and while I agree with Ruffin's premise, he also is a little off-base IMO.
The argument should not be that kids who leave the state cannot get a job back home. The argument is that kids who stay are going to be offered very nice jobs in the area that are a direct result of playing for LSU.
If you've got an opening in a medical equipment sales position in LA, are you going to hire Jacob Hester or Joe McKnight?
Conversely, if you've got the same opening in Georgia, are you going to hire Kevin Minter or Aaron Murray?
If you're a football recruit a major university, you are going to have a leg up on some kush jobs in and around that city/state. I don't think many recruits thing about it in their decision making process, but it is most certainly a fact.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:02 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
why do we resort to threatening kids' livelihoods to try to keep them in state? There's lots of good reasons to go out of state and there's no need to bash people for it.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:02 pm to TROLA
What people are missing us these kids won't be qualified in life after football. Half if them don't get a degree and half the ones that do get a degree in something anyone would have a hard time making a decent living in. That's the whole thing. Why hire an unqualified former player of Texas a&m? I could easily see them doing it for an LSU player.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:03 pm to baytiger
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why do we resort to threatening kids' livelihoods to try to keep them in state? There's lots of good reasons to go out of state and there's no need to bash people for it.
It's not a threat it is human nature
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:05 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I'm not going to argue that it's not human nature
but it's still a threat when used in this context
but it's still a threat when used in this context
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:05 pm to slackster
Ruffin was taking the hard approach that you leave, dont come back. It's a truthful statement in that you will have haters here the rest of your life. I believe both ways to be true, an LSU player from LA will be a prime candidate for a job while a kid who left the state will be shunned. (Not saying I agree with it, but thats how it is (anywhere, not just LA)
If you owned a company, who do you think your Louisana business customers would buy from more?
1. Eric Reid
2. Landon Collins
or
1. Kevin Faulk
2. Joe McKnight
Pretty simple concept.
If you owned a company, who do you think your Louisana business customers would buy from more?
1. Eric Reid
2. Landon Collins
or
1. Kevin Faulk
2. Joe McKnight
Pretty simple concept.
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