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Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:53 pm to
TB what’s up with that Jade Carry score? She got hosed on beam!
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67895 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:12 pm to
She got hosed there. They may have been super harsh on her leaps but it still shouldn’t have been that low.
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
516 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:13 pm to
Glad I’m not the only one. She could have done the all around righ instead on Suni? I don’t think they like the way she qualified through the cups. She’s super steady. Simone looked totally disinterested.

Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
761 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:25 am to
I can't say I like the way she qualified either. I get she did what is best for her, but in the end she will pay the price. Tom has done a pretty terrible job in my opinion with this team. Jordan had no international experience, they should have at least tried to send her to the pan ams for experience. Grace is steady but underwhelming and will place in no categories. It should have been either myk or jade on team and someone like Leann or Kayla D. whose execution and dance would have scored higher. Then you could put either Myk or Jade, and Riley as plus 1's. If we didn't have Simone, who I also am not that pleased with these days, this team would probably be in 4th or lower.

Side note: I do not like Simone and all the goat stuff. We all know you are the goat but saying it and having leos and shoes is a little classless to me. Let other people talk about it not YOU!!
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 8:28 am
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67895 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:38 am to
Tom tried to avoid all controversy by picking 1-4 in the AA at trials instead of formulating a team that can achieve their max potential score. He is unimaginative

I don’t blame Carey for taking the guarantee individual spot. Truth be told, I wouldn’t trust Tom to make the right decision. Especially when he hasn’t been transparent with a good chunk of the national team
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 10:10 am
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
739 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:09 pm to
I love gymnastics, especially elite gymnastics, but I too am underwhelmed. Maybe because it seems somewhat silly to have all the pageantry and fanfare for no fans (that can't be helped, but I think it ruins the vibe). That being said, I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE the way Jade qualified. I think it is absolutely unfair to all other athletes in a country like the United States. People say it doesn't have to be fair - which is true, but I just really think it gave her such a leg up these last two years.

Then, I think Tom didn't handle it well. I think he essentially chose the rest of the team as though Jade didn't exist (which may make some sense since he couldn't control anything she did or didn't do). The U.S. should have put its selection procedures to paper and made it clear no one could do that route - that the US federation would proceed with qualification through AA world cups and continental championships.

People then give Tom a hard time (perhaps rightly) for setting either Jade or Mykayla up to fail. However, if Tom was essentially pretending Jade didn't exist, then sending Mykayla was of course the right call (and even if she does exist, it may be the right call since there really was no one else who could potentially medal than Mykayla, other than an outside shot for Riley). I am just heartbroken for Mykayla - I know most people who go to the Olympics don't win medals, but that isn't the case for U.S. gymnasts in recent decades.

All that said, Tom hasn't particularly managed this team well. I can't tell if he is incompetent, inexperienced, or if just the really weird selection process hampered his ability to construct the team the way he would have preferred.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:10 pm to
Tom is done if the girls don’t win gold tomorrow. It’s got to be a sure thing at this point. His quote about picking the team based on rank order instead of team scoring potential because “it won’t come down to tenths” when the US loses qualifications by over a full point is just horrible now. If they lose to Russia then watch out.

And I am sorry, but Simone is absolutely done. I posted on another board during Olympic Trials about her attitude on Day 2 and got torn to shreds because they say we hold women to a higher standard. She is disinterested. She only cares about herself. And if she is having a bad day then she acts like a baby and has no interest whatsoever in the rest of those there who are trying to hold her up.

It’s time for her to go or take a break and come back with some new motivations.

It has got to be tough to be her because she is expected to win everything on her own. But look at qualifying. She went OOB once on floor and didn’t even qualify in 1st. She was nearly beaten by a few others. A year ago she was falling and going OOB and still winning comfortable. The tide has clearly turned.

Forster clearly didn’t construct routines well and that’s another reason for the low scores on some events that didn’t quite seem obvious. We can criticize Marta and everything that went on under her watch but also acknowledge what she did right. This team reminds me of 2004. All the talent and charisma but simply not paying attention to how to win.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
761 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 7:52 am to
well looks like he is done. He and everyone else had to know counting on Simone to win by herself was only going to work for so long. I feel bad for the girls.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:32 am to
I am trying to withhold any judgement regarding Simone until we find out more. I can’t even imagine the pressure she has been under, carrying team USA for 8 years. I guess it all became too much but at the same time, you don’t let your team down like that. I wonder if they will release more info or if Simone will just quietly withdraw. If she competes in the individual events then she will probably have to say something.
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
761 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:05 am to
If she competes in individual or AA I will lose respect for her. I can understand being under pressure, but this should be nothing new to her. It also means, in my opinion, she let her team down and only cares about her individual medals, ie herself.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
732 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 11:03 am to
Saw this on the thegymterdotnet....
LCBC
@lauracbryan
· 4h
Replying to @CallieRose24 and @thegymterdotnet
The broadcast just said Simone did not have an injury. Sitting out for mental reasons.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 11:04 am
Posted by Twz
Member since Dec 2018
430 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:14 pm to
I don’t think anyone in this board knows what it is like to walk in simone’s shoes. As a gymnastics fan I would love to have seen her compete but I trust she knows what is best for herself and kudos to the other ladies for (mostly) holding it together. I like the Russians’ gymnastics more tbh so I’m happy for them.
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
516 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:18 pm to
Thats weak. I would think at her age and experience nothing would bother her. Maybe she's just over it all.
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
516 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:20 pm to
Hated to see Chow running the CCP team. I would think he would be a little more American than that.
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
739 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 6:48 am to
This stuff with Simone is WILD. on the one hand, I am glad she is making sure she is safe because if you aren’t prepared in gymnastics, then it can be life threatening, but on the other hand it’s the olympics.
Posted by Twz
Member since Dec 2018
430 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:50 am to
Suni for AA champ! And major props to jade, who knew being the third American in qualifications would be so key.
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
761 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:01 pm to
I hope Myk gets to do vault final!
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:29 pm to
At this point it seems very like Skinner will get into the vault final. I would love to see her win gold if she does, even though Jade seems more likely. Her vaults are just a bit cleaner.

Simones mental block seems to be strong on vault so it seems unlikely she figures this out by then. Maybe beam would be a safer event for her with only the dismount possibly causing concern.
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
739 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 3:00 pm to
I think we may have seen the last of Simone for the Olympics - I think it takes time and different training conditions to overcome this particular mental block. I feel for her. I am glad we get to see other gymnasts shine, though.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67895 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:10 am to
Happy for Suni and her family! So deserving
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