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Proof of Alabama Bias in Recruiting Rankings

Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:38 pm
Posted by LSUGTFAN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:38 pm
So, for anyone who has read this recruiting board, or has followed recruiting for more than a day must know that for some odd reason, any and every ALABAMA commit seems to be magically upgraded in rankings significantly.

Nonetheless, I felt, in the interest of humor, I felt like sharing a well known anecdote of how Bradley Sylve got rated significantly ahead of LSU commit Jarvis Landry.

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10) Bradley Sylve (South Plaquemines) WR (5-11, 175) - Explosive receiver who dominates on the Class A level. Able to split a double-team with ease. Dangerous kick returner with elite speed. Also a track star. Suffered a season-ending injury in the first game of his junior year. LSU is the big favorite for Sylve's services, according to reports. Has offers from LSU, USC, Alabama, California, Tennessee, and others. Ranked as the No. 207 player in the nation by Scout.com. (9)


1) Jarvis Landry was rated #7, ahead of Bradley Sylve.

2) Bradley Sylve suffered a "season ending injury" while Jarvis Landry played his antebellum off and amassed staggering statistics while showing some impressive bluechip WR skills

3) Before either of the 2 WR's had commited, Scout had rated Sylve as #209 in its rankes - FAR from being a 5-star. A move to a 5-star would generally only be granted after a phenomenal season with awesome stats that shadow Landry's

4) Alonzo Lewis also suffered a similar serious injury that might have been the sole reason why he is ranked so low in the WR charts (around 20 in the LA prospect list). YET, he is ranked worlds apart from Sylve (not denying their diff. in talent, just a larger diff. in ranking)


YET, SOMEHOW before even playing in his senior season, by simply committing to Alabama, he is ranked above Jarvis Landry.

Now, I do not deny Sylve's raw talent, and I am sure there isnt too much talent difference or ability to make an early impact between Sylve and Landry. But it is shameful that Landry gets ranked below Sylve. This does not change my opinion of Sylve's phenomenal talents and I hope that come February, he is wearing purple and gold, but it does provide further proof of Alabama's influence in recruiting.

This post was edited on 8/23/10 at 8:27 am
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:40 pm to
It will be more conclusive if he did switch and he dropped to a 4 or 3 star.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:42 pm to
wait, sylve is rated ahead of landry? i gotta see this shite
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:50 pm to
Sylve is ranked ahead of him on ESPN.

But all the Bama recruiting bias bullshite is exclusively dealing with Rivals.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:50 pm to
Well, technically it is. ESPN just mirrors what the other two do, so . . .
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:53 pm to
The other two both have Landry ranked significantly ahead of Sylve.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 9:54 pm to
Well, ESPN has to do some things to make it look like they aren't copying.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78426 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

ESPN just mirrors what the other two do, so . . .

Not really, ESPN usually has some strange rankings, ostensibly to set themselves apart from the other services.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65787 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 10:03 pm to
Sylve ranking is based on his pre-injury speed. I will wait and see how he does this year before I'm convinced he's better than the others on the board. From other reports, he's not close to being back,yet!
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130907 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 10:23 pm to
what about the rest of the bama recruits?
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7426 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 10:30 pm to
I think Sylve has a lot of talent, but he's not even close to Landry. Those very few who rate him above Landry are drinking too much 'Bama koolaid & don't know what they're talking about!
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
Member since Jun 2009
2110 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 10:49 pm to
espn changes rankings like models change clothes. at the end of the football season everything will panout on espn, not rivials.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 11:48 pm to
Beat bama consistently and outperform them in the SEC West and nobody will care about any of this.
Posted by LSUGTFAN
Member since Jun 2009
142 posts
Posted on 8/20/10 at 11:58 pm to
That is true. But the thing is Saban has an incredible eye for talent and he can develop it. When he was at LSU, he managed to get the same talent here, Only they werent as well rated. Now, at Bama, he has all 4 and 5 star calibers (many of them getting 4 stars over night). Thats all i am saying. I am not denying their talent level, which is incredulous, just the increased bias because they are from Alabama. Thats all.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 8/21/10 at 1:22 am to
quote:

Explosive receiver who dominates on the Class A level.


Posted by flyingtiger
San Antonio, TX
Member since Jun 2005
455 posts
Posted on 8/21/10 at 1:40 am to
To add fuel to your argument, Landry tore it up at every camp and 7-on-7 tournamnet he participated over the summer. Where was Sylve? Oh yeah, still recovering...he has shown nothing since getting injured and reports from folks that have seen him this summer say Sylve is a step slower and hesitant to change direction.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 8/21/10 at 10:07 am to
That is understandable. Under Saban's tutelage they expect Syle will see the field as a fteshman. Landry with Miles, not until he is a Jr or Sr.
Aren't those star rankings based on their projected time of contribution. Five Star- projected to contribute as a Freshman. Two Star-contribute as a Sr or maybe never.
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard...4 Losses.
Member since Oct 2003
5609 posts
Posted on 8/21/10 at 10:17 am to
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dumbass Alert!!!
This post was edited on 8/22/10 at 7:00 am
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 8/21/10 at 10:21 am to
Didn't Sylve suffer another injury during track season? I would rather us take a guy who may not be AS GOOD as Sylve but could at least stay healthy. With the WR talent we have brought in in '09, '10, and what we have coming in for '11, IMHO, BS isn't a must get. We are stacked at WR for years to come. I'd rather us get a guy who could at least contribute on ST, rather than waste a scholly on a guy who will constantly have nagging injuries. Let's get Brisset, OBJ, Robinson, and Raven..... Hell, we may even get an out of the blue commit ala Sam Montgomery.


ETA: I am seriously doubting we get Rasco.
This post was edited on 8/21/10 at 10:24 am
Posted by LSUGTFAN
Member since Jun 2009
142 posts
Posted on 8/21/10 at 10:36 am to
quote:

That is understandable. Under Saban's tutelage they expect Syle will see the field as a fteshman. Landry with Miles, not until he is a Jr or Sr. Aren't those star rankings based on their projected time of contribution. Five Star- projected to contribute as a Freshman. Two Star-contribute as a Sr or maybe never.


uhhhhh NO. You are simply payingg attention to one of the 2 things that ESPN wrote for their star rating explanations. The expected time of impact in their 4 year career is based on their talent level. A 5 star is good enough to compete to from freshmen yet because of his TALENT level against top level College corners. A 2 star is not as talented. Could have the ability to contribute by jr or sr season if he was coached up and prepped for a couple of years (whether its physical lacking or mechanics, footwork etc).

you have to look at BOTH aspects. They are not mutually exclusive.
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