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re: Over the long term average, what is the minimum Louisiana recruits we should annually sign
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:49 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:49 pm to thunderbird1100
Let’s not act like we don’t know the reason for his question. I like the question and am not all bent out of shape for it.
basically he’s asking if you should take an 85 rated linebacker from from Hammond over a 92 rated linebacker out of California. I wish we could make the roster 100% La. but you can’t.
There’s so much more to it. You have to weigh it out. If the staff thinks they will play similar, and the other things being all equal, then you go with the Louisiana so you keep Louisiana continuity for two reasons.
1. More Louisiana prospects are more apt to sign with LSU if yo don’t poss off their coaches from previous years.
2. More Louisiana prospects understand what is involved in getting to Atlanta by beating:
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
But. You may find way better prospects from Fla and Tex at another position so you want your arms out for everyone that wants to be a tiger.
It’s hard to grasp, but not everyone WANTS to be a tiger from La and it’s even harder from other states.
basically he’s asking if you should take an 85 rated linebacker from from Hammond over a 92 rated linebacker out of California. I wish we could make the roster 100% La. but you can’t.
There’s so much more to it. You have to weigh it out. If the staff thinks they will play similar, and the other things being all equal, then you go with the Louisiana so you keep Louisiana continuity for two reasons.
1. More Louisiana prospects are more apt to sign with LSU if yo don’t poss off their coaches from previous years.
2. More Louisiana prospects understand what is involved in getting to Atlanta by beating:
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
But. You may find way better prospects from Fla and Tex at another position so you want your arms out for everyone that wants to be a tiger.
It’s hard to grasp, but not everyone WANTS to be a tiger from La and it’s even harder from other states.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 1:54 pm
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:54 pm to TigerBert
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Over the long term average, what is the minimum Louisiana recruits we should annually sign
This is how you end up being Ole Miss, Miss St., Vanderbilt, Arkansas, and Kentucky. There's no metric to it outside of recruiting the best possible players.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:58 pm to Will2nd
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There's no metric to it outside of recruiting the best possible players.
Yes. We all know this. He’s asking a question about how how to properly invest commitsble offers to La kids instead of waiting around for superstars that can go anywhere they want.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:35 pm to LSUbest
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You would trade a 10-20% reduction in talent for 3-6 year in a row.....hoping that it would help to net 2-3 more recruits when Louisiana has an abundance of talent?
No lol. That's a big dropoff. I'm not talking about taking considerably worse players because they're in-state. I'm talking about prioritizing Louisiana when it comes to the end of the class and the players are comparable. To suggest that being from Louisiana should in no way be a consideration is asinine. There's a reason why we don't just target the top 'X' number of players in the country and refuse to consider anyone else.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:59 pm to TigerBert
I really hope our coaches don't think much about this crap. Talent and potential are everything. The only time we prefer local kids over others should be when all else is equal between them. LSU recruiters should NOT have to walk on eggshells for local high school coaches.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:09 pm to N2daWild
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There are advantages to La. recruits. For example more likely to stick to commitment. Logistics are easier and save us time and money. Etc. If it is a toss up, I go La. kid.
Yep.
It's surprising to me that most people here aren't placing any value on La kids playing for us, given how important motivation is to performance.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:16 pm to TigerBert
We should recruit players that want to be LSU tigers. It doesn’t matter if they’re from Alaska, Alabama, Louisiana or Australia. As long as they are talented and want to be tigers we should recruit them. Let’s take Khamauri Rogers (2022 5 Star CB Commit) LINK He wants to be a tiger. Grew up in Mississippi, great player. Or Take Eli Ricks great player, wants to be a tiger. Of Course we should recruit Louisiana and I love what Coach O does but it’s about who will make the best LSU tiger.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:16 pm to TigerBert
100% should be from Louisiana (to craft the rosters potion?)
you just can't count on out of state recruits. Look what happened with Burtan and Jarrett. Not only that but they left egg on their faces.
Give Orgeron a team of 2 and 3 star recruits from Louisiana who want to be at LSU and will work their asses off over some primo donna out of state 4 and 5 stars who are wishy washy in their commitments and may leave us at the alter with our thumb up their butts.
you just can't count on out of state recruits. Look what happened with Burtan and Jarrett. Not only that but they left egg on their faces.
Give Orgeron a team of 2 and 3 star recruits from Louisiana who want to be at LSU and will work their asses off over some primo donna out of state 4 and 5 stars who are wishy washy in their commitments and may leave us at the alter with our thumb up their butts.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:27 pm to TigerBert
never forget Jacob Hester! 2 star recruit FROM LOUISIANA who WANTED TO BE AT LSU and WORKED HIS arse OFF. Give coach O a team of "Jacob Hesters" and he can mold them into a dynasty.
He was also all heart, with a great motor, and like a coach on the field.
He was also all heart, with a great motor, and like a coach on the field.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:40 pm to TigerBert
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I am referring to multi-year average minimum FROM Louisiana HS talent base
I understand your question, but I don't think there is a concrete answer. Look at this year. Two 5* out of state WR and 2 4* in state WR. The two OOS WR bail on us on signing day while the IS guys stick with us.
I happen to think the two instate guys are plenty talented, plus we have 5 of the top 9 (4* or better) players in state next year are WR. The loss of the two OOS WR are thus marginalized.
If you want to make sure we get the best guys from in state, you have to invest in some local guys to keep the pipelines open. I think you take a local guy if he is in the same evaluation range as the national guy. Since we don't actually know the coaches evaluations, I would say that I would take a 5* national guy over a 4* local guy, but you better have a back up plan if the national guy flakes out on you. You could use top 100 versus top 250 as your ranges just as well as the "star" thing. 5* is essentially top 30, so you could do top 50, top 150, and top 300 as well.
Unless you have access to the actual evaluations, this will all be guesses anyway.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:47 pm to TigerBert
Minimum? Average? What?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:51 pm to panterica
Coach O has said many times in public that it is important to get the best kids from in state and that he is sick every time he watches Etienne playing for Clemson on film.
Like everything else, there is a balance. Ideally, we would get about 15 guys a year from in state. In the past, there would be 12 - 15 guys in state that were good enough to contribute at LSU.
Sometimes there are not enough or there is a positional imbalance. If you look at 247 for 2021, there are 9 4*/5* players in state and 5 of them are WR.
Like everything else, there is a balance. Ideally, we would get about 15 guys a year from in state. In the past, there would be 12 - 15 guys in state that were good enough to contribute at LSU.
Sometimes there are not enough or there is a positional imbalance. If you look at 247 for 2021, there are 9 4*/5* players in state and 5 of them are WR.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:00 pm to TigerBert
What kind of minimum commitment is being made by the HS players of the state?
Is it the same % in NO, Monroe and Amite? U High?
Is it the same % in NO, Monroe and Amite? U High?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:09 pm to TigerBert
15
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:15 pm to TigerBert
Hmmm looking at the the current class I'll go with B, final answer
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:29 pm to TigerBert
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Thanks for your opinion.
In my opinion, Chicken should charge a fee to start topics. Even if it was only a dollar or so a thread, it would prevent stupid shite like this from being posted.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:05 pm to TigerBert
Coaches Decision. Be a fan and cheer for your team.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:14 am to TigerBert
We need to sign the best available
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:38 am to Sampson
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This is the dumbest post I’ve seen in over a week
And that’s saying something, bc I’ve seen some really dumb posts lately
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:51 am to LSUFM
10-15 from Louisiana with the majority of the other focus on east Texas and the Gulf Coast. Monitor the Georgia hotbeds and Miami. Recruit QBs nationally.
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