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re: NCAA investigation on Auburn now in Thibodeaux
Posted on 2/19/11 at 5:33 pm to DocBugbear
Posted on 2/19/11 at 5:33 pm to DocBugbear
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Posted on 2/19/11 at 5:45 pm to DocBugbear
fair enough... just don't let Lorio's clarification and Emmert's comments get in the way of baseless speculation...
Posted on 2/19/11 at 5:59 pm to lowspark12
LINK
Hey War Eagle fans scroll down the page....let me know when you see something hits a nerve!!
Hey War Eagle fans scroll down the page....let me know when you see something hits a nerve!!
This post was edited on 2/19/11 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 2/19/11 at 6:27 pm to Gigity
Hey you AU troll! I guess it is better to listen to a street agent who just showed up for a payday as opposed to people who have known TR for most of his life. You need to read my post about how the AU coaches are just like drug pushers. What I did not know at the time is that AU had a street pusher on payroll.
Posted on 2/19/11 at 6:38 pm to lowspark12
quote:We dont need to be lectured by clueless Auburn fans.
lowspark12
Thats why they made the SEC Rant, so all ya'lls (knowledge) can be posted there.
Posted on 2/19/11 at 6:54 pm to lowspark12
Thanks for your understanding.
Posted on 2/19/11 at 7:31 pm to DocBugbear
Maybe thats the reason Lorio is not the head coach at thibodaux ,something happen ,no one in thibodaux knows why he quit there are differnt stories going around ,lorio told us in a parent coach meeting before last season ,he didn't care for the way auburn was recuiting players,so there is alot of BS GOING AROUND
Posted on 2/20/11 at 12:42 pm to tigerlou4
Former Thibodaux coach Dennis Lorio says Auburn didn't break recruiting rules
Published: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 5:05 AM
Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News
Dennis Lorio has learned a few things about recruiting during his long career as a high school football coach in Louisiana.
Certain conditions naturally lead to questions.
When a high-profile player leaves a state, people in the home state get suspicious. Of course, when the home-state school signs someone from out of state, he said, the locals think "that's great."
When there's a national-caliber recruit, wherever he signs, Lorio said, "everything's going to be looked at."
When a college program wins a national championship - "when you're at the top," as Lorio said - "people question things."
When all of those conditions come together, such as Auburn signing Trovon Reed in 2010 and Greg Robinson in 2011 out of Thibodaux (La.) High school, it's no surprise that NCAA investigators come around.
Lorio, who resigned as Thibodaux's coach in November, coached Reed and Robinson. The NCAA interviewed Lorio and others in Thibodaux last week. In a phone conversation Saturday, Lorio wanted to clear up some misconceptions about his NCAA interview.
According to Lorio:
The NCAA asked him about two players only, Reed and Robinson. The NCAA asked him about one college only, Auburn.
The NCAA asked him only one question about Reed, the wide receiver Rivals.com rated the top prospect in Louisiana in the 2010 signing class, who sat out most of last season as a medical redshirt. Did Lorio know of any NCAA violations Auburn may have committed in recruiting Reed?
Lorio's answer: "No."
The NCAA asked him more questions about Robinson, rated by Rivals as the No. 2 guard in the nation and No. 4 prospect in Louisiana. Lorio's bottom-line answer on Robinson: "To my knowledge, there was nothing illegal in his recruitment."
Early in their conversation, Lorio said, the NCAA investigator said to him, "I see you think Auburn did something illegal in recruiting."
Lorio said he told the investigator, "No. I didn't say that. You inferred that."
Perhaps from a January article on FoxSports.com that included a suspicious quote attributed to the high school coach that appeared to accuse Auburn of something without specifically accusing Auburn of anything.
"That's the problem," Lorio said. "People try to figure out and sometimes invent what happened."
Lorio also said Saturday that the NCAA asked him a number of questions about 7-on-7 tournaments and combines. He said he didn't have much information on those events, but summer football is starting to resemble summer basketball.
"There are a lot of concerns about that," Lorio said, "because it's an unregulated area in the summertime."
Back to Auburn. It's not hard to figure out that people are suspicious of the program's climb from 5-7 in 2008 to 14-0 in 2010. In two years under Gene Chizik, the Tigers have competed nationally both in recruiting and on the field better than they have in years.
The perception of the program has been hurt because Heisman-winning quarterback Cam Newton was declared ineligible and reinstated without conditions the week of the SEC Championship Game. The NCAA ruled his father and a former Mississippi State player had discussed a pay-for-play plan to send him to State.
I reported Wednesday that, according to well-informed sources, the NCAA continues to investigate Auburn's recruitment of Newton but so far has not uncovered any bombshell information that would jeopardize the program's championship season.
News of the NCAA interviews in Thibodaux, first broken by SportsbyBrooks.com, provides further evidence that Auburn is under the microscope. That's not news to Auburn, but there's little its officials can do to defend themselves publicly during any kind of investigation.
When the NCAA tells you to keep quiet, you keep quiet. That's been Auburn's policy on unresolved NCAA issues since Georgia week in November.
Witness Chizik's radio interview Friday morning with WJOX in Birmingham. Al Del Greco asked the Auburn coach if he could "clarify" where the Thibodaux inquiry stands.
"I'm not at liberty to talk through any of that situation at this time," Chizik said, though he did say that, as far as he knows, Auburn has not received a letter of inquiry from the NCAA.
That last fact doesn't mean Auburn is in the clear but neither does it mean the program is headed toward trouble. Drawing conclusions now would be premature and irresponsible.
It's always unsettling when the NCAA starts asking questions about your signees, but Lorio's personal observations about Reed and Robinson should make Auburn feel better.
"They went (to Auburn) because it's a rising program, because of the academic opportunities and both of them said it was a chance to see something different," Lorio said.
Lorio also noted that Reed and Robinson grew up in the same neighborhood.
"I'll say this: Trovon Reed is good as gold," Lorio said. "Whatever he says, you can count on it. I have total confidence in Trovon. It probably affected Greg that a guy we think so highly of chose Auburn. Trovon's one of those kids all the kids look up to and follow."
Published: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 5:05 AM
Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News
Dennis Lorio has learned a few things about recruiting during his long career as a high school football coach in Louisiana.
Certain conditions naturally lead to questions.
When a high-profile player leaves a state, people in the home state get suspicious. Of course, when the home-state school signs someone from out of state, he said, the locals think "that's great."
When there's a national-caliber recruit, wherever he signs, Lorio said, "everything's going to be looked at."
When a college program wins a national championship - "when you're at the top," as Lorio said - "people question things."
When all of those conditions come together, such as Auburn signing Trovon Reed in 2010 and Greg Robinson in 2011 out of Thibodaux (La.) High school, it's no surprise that NCAA investigators come around.
Lorio, who resigned as Thibodaux's coach in November, coached Reed and Robinson. The NCAA interviewed Lorio and others in Thibodaux last week. In a phone conversation Saturday, Lorio wanted to clear up some misconceptions about his NCAA interview.
According to Lorio:
The NCAA asked him about two players only, Reed and Robinson. The NCAA asked him about one college only, Auburn.
The NCAA asked him only one question about Reed, the wide receiver Rivals.com rated the top prospect in Louisiana in the 2010 signing class, who sat out most of last season as a medical redshirt. Did Lorio know of any NCAA violations Auburn may have committed in recruiting Reed?
Lorio's answer: "No."
The NCAA asked him more questions about Robinson, rated by Rivals as the No. 2 guard in the nation and No. 4 prospect in Louisiana. Lorio's bottom-line answer on Robinson: "To my knowledge, there was nothing illegal in his recruitment."
Early in their conversation, Lorio said, the NCAA investigator said to him, "I see you think Auburn did something illegal in recruiting."
Lorio said he told the investigator, "No. I didn't say that. You inferred that."
Perhaps from a January article on FoxSports.com that included a suspicious quote attributed to the high school coach that appeared to accuse Auburn of something without specifically accusing Auburn of anything.
"That's the problem," Lorio said. "People try to figure out and sometimes invent what happened."
Lorio also said Saturday that the NCAA asked him a number of questions about 7-on-7 tournaments and combines. He said he didn't have much information on those events, but summer football is starting to resemble summer basketball.
"There are a lot of concerns about that," Lorio said, "because it's an unregulated area in the summertime."
Back to Auburn. It's not hard to figure out that people are suspicious of the program's climb from 5-7 in 2008 to 14-0 in 2010. In two years under Gene Chizik, the Tigers have competed nationally both in recruiting and on the field better than they have in years.
The perception of the program has been hurt because Heisman-winning quarterback Cam Newton was declared ineligible and reinstated without conditions the week of the SEC Championship Game. The NCAA ruled his father and a former Mississippi State player had discussed a pay-for-play plan to send him to State.
I reported Wednesday that, according to well-informed sources, the NCAA continues to investigate Auburn's recruitment of Newton but so far has not uncovered any bombshell information that would jeopardize the program's championship season.
News of the NCAA interviews in Thibodaux, first broken by SportsbyBrooks.com, provides further evidence that Auburn is under the microscope. That's not news to Auburn, but there's little its officials can do to defend themselves publicly during any kind of investigation.
When the NCAA tells you to keep quiet, you keep quiet. That's been Auburn's policy on unresolved NCAA issues since Georgia week in November.
Witness Chizik's radio interview Friday morning with WJOX in Birmingham. Al Del Greco asked the Auburn coach if he could "clarify" where the Thibodaux inquiry stands.
"I'm not at liberty to talk through any of that situation at this time," Chizik said, though he did say that, as far as he knows, Auburn has not received a letter of inquiry from the NCAA.
That last fact doesn't mean Auburn is in the clear but neither does it mean the program is headed toward trouble. Drawing conclusions now would be premature and irresponsible.
It's always unsettling when the NCAA starts asking questions about your signees, but Lorio's personal observations about Reed and Robinson should make Auburn feel better.
"They went (to Auburn) because it's a rising program, because of the academic opportunities and both of them said it was a chance to see something different," Lorio said.
Lorio also noted that Reed and Robinson grew up in the same neighborhood.
"I'll say this: Trovon Reed is good as gold," Lorio said. "Whatever he says, you can count on it. I have total confidence in Trovon. It probably affected Greg that a guy we think so highly of chose Auburn. Trovon's one of those kids all the kids look up to and follow."
Posted on 2/20/11 at 12:42 pm to tigerlou4
I think the most telling thing in this is that whenever allegations relating to Auburn's recruiting practices arise, one of the first things out of their mouths is that they aren't any worse than anyone else and bring up Bama as an example. It seems clear that the rivalry between the Alabama schools has put both schools into a position where they refuse to concede an advantage to the other school. This has created a situation where escalation in dirty recruiting is inevitable. This culture makes it just as inevitable that at some point in the not too distant future Auburn will be penalized. And I would not be surprised in the least if we discovered that Barn's recent success hasn't pushed some Bama boosters into acts that are equally worthy of being penalized.
While everyone (outside of Auburn fans) seems confident that some serious shenanigans are going on in Auburn recruiting, the question is really what the NCAA with their limited investigative power is going to be able to discover. Personally, I think the NCAA needs to take some risks in order to get the situation under control. They need to punish some people based on what appears to be the case rather than what they can prove. It's risky, because someone could turn around and sue them, but once the lawsuit is out there the NCAA will get to put people on the witness stand.
While everyone (outside of Auburn fans) seems confident that some serious shenanigans are going on in Auburn recruiting, the question is really what the NCAA with their limited investigative power is going to be able to discover. Personally, I think the NCAA needs to take some risks in order to get the situation under control. They need to punish some people based on what appears to be the case rather than what they can prove. It's risky, because someone could turn around and sue them, but once the lawsuit is out there the NCAA will get to put people on the witness stand.
Posted on 2/20/11 at 1:06 pm to DocBugbear
I think the NCAA needs a Cheaters Stopper's program like the Crime Stopper's program that the local law enforcement uses. They could offer reward money only if your information leads directly to a rules violation conviction.
Posted on 2/20/11 at 2:06 pm to Born to be a Tiger
The Auburn death penalty is imminent
Posted on 2/20/11 at 3:10 pm to tigerlou4
Auburn fans go to the SEC RANT dang!
Posted on 2/20/11 at 3:40 pm to Born to be a Tiger
I have only 2 questions:
Why did Lorio quit at Thibodeaux HS?
Why is he so Auburn friendly now?
Answer those 2 questions truthfully and you have your solution.
Why did Lorio quit at Thibodeaux HS?
Why is he so Auburn friendly now?
Answer those 2 questions truthfully and you have your solution.
Posted on 2/20/11 at 5:13 pm to Born to be a Tiger
quote:
I think the NCAA needs a Cheaters Stopper's program like the Crime Stopper's program that the local law enforcement uses. They could offer reward money only if your information leads directly to a rules violation conviction.
You know, I don't think that it is an NCAA violation if boosters of rival schools were to offer rewards like this. Every team in the SEC should put up a standing offer for every other team (which would increase the reward by a factor of 11 and ensure that there is no animosity directed towards any one school when rewards are paid out). While they are at it they can also put up a reward for nailing biased refs.
Posted on 2/20/11 at 6:23 pm to DocBugbear
saw this on AE just now...
They obviously need to brush up on their facts.
I wish I could ask them to name me those players that he sent to LSU from Thib.
They obviously need to brush up on their facts.
quote:
The former coach (yes he was fired for improper conduct not sure what he did) had a direct pipeline to LSU. He sent many players to LSU and he got very mad when two of his prizes decided to go to Auburn. He refused to attend the Reed signing until the Principal and AD of the high school forced him. Find the photographs, it is obvious he wasn't happy. I think the NCAA may dig up much more in Thibodeaux than they are expecting. And it will be incriminating the other Tigers.
quote:
What I want to know is, why isn't Evans or ANYONE else asking Lorio why he was forced to resign from his coaching job a few months ago?? There's obviously a story there that he doesn't want made public. Lorio has been so far up LSU's back side that he could deliver a daily colonoscopy report. He's a bully. He decided to run his mouth about Auburn because two of his prized players got out of the LSU pipeline that he was so proud of (and clearly compensated for). I notice Lorio is backing away from his earlier comments now, probably because someone has warned him that he's been throwing some very large rocks out of that glass house he lives in.
I wish I could ask them to name me those players that he sent to LSU from Thib.
Posted on 2/20/11 at 6:35 pm to memphisplaya
haha that was clearly written w/out an agenda.. now would be an appropriate time for head in sand pic that i don't feel like posting
Posted on 2/20/11 at 6:36 pm to Born to be a Tiger
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