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My take on recruiting and the "de commits"....FWIW
Posted on 11/29/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 11/29/24 at 3:57 pm
Yes, the game has changed and the balance has shifted all to the players. If they are solely in it for the money and desire generational wealth in an instant, who can blame them. But, here is my problem with it.
If all they want is the money, then never use the word "commit"...all that does is hold a certain paycheck until they find a higher bidder. So, they should simply say "I am playing for that school for that price but looking for a better deal!" They are not coming to any college because of loyalty to the school. That is obvious.
Second, please respect the school...if you find a higher bidder school, please do so with enough time to allow the school you just screwed to offer the scholly and NIL to anohter player. What Harold has done is leave both LSU and another recruit who wanted to come to LSU stranded. What Harold has done as has many is simply commit to a school (LSU in this case) only to continue to seek more money, then leave the school in a bind a few days before signing day. I hope at some point the tables are turned and they are left "at the altar" and will see how it feels.
My biggest problem is we are fostering a generation that all they want is instant gratification without working for it. Harold is only one representatiive of this generation that are in for themselves only.
But, I would like to think that there are many players and recruits (probably the majority) that want to play for the school they love and every team has them. For LSU, just look at what Nuss did or Josh Williams. There is no questions they are there for LSU.
You have to look at the Week brothers who seem to love LSU.
So, for Harold, I suspect since he has learned instant gratification is the way to go, I would think if he doesn't start early in his career, you'll see his name in the portal That is now the norm in college ball.
So, Harold like others will find out one day Karma is a bitch!
If all they want is the money, then never use the word "commit"...all that does is hold a certain paycheck until they find a higher bidder. So, they should simply say "I am playing for that school for that price but looking for a better deal!" They are not coming to any college because of loyalty to the school. That is obvious.
Second, please respect the school...if you find a higher bidder school, please do so with enough time to allow the school you just screwed to offer the scholly and NIL to anohter player. What Harold has done is leave both LSU and another recruit who wanted to come to LSU stranded. What Harold has done as has many is simply commit to a school (LSU in this case) only to continue to seek more money, then leave the school in a bind a few days before signing day. I hope at some point the tables are turned and they are left "at the altar" and will see how it feels.
My biggest problem is we are fostering a generation that all they want is instant gratification without working for it. Harold is only one representatiive of this generation that are in for themselves only.
But, I would like to think that there are many players and recruits (probably the majority) that want to play for the school they love and every team has them. For LSU, just look at what Nuss did or Josh Williams. There is no questions they are there for LSU.
You have to look at the Week brothers who seem to love LSU.
So, for Harold, I suspect since he has learned instant gratification is the way to go, I would think if he doesn't start early in his career, you'll see his name in the portal That is now the norm in college ball.
So, Harold like others will find out one day Karma is a bitch!
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 3:59 pm to Awlunz Tiger
You bring up some valid points about the current state of college athletics, particularly with NIL deals and the transfer portal. The landscape has undoubtedly shifted, giving players more power to control their financial futures and career paths. While it’s easy to understand why athletes might prioritize these opportunities, it does create challenges for schools, coaches, and even other recruits.
I agree that the word "commitment" carries weight and implies a level of loyalty that’s often missing in these situations. If a player sees their commitment as conditional or transactional, it would be more transparent to frame it that way. That would save schools—and fans—the frustration of last-minute changes.
Your point about timing is also spot-on. When players leave schools hanging right before signing day, it not only affects the program but also other athletes who might have taken that spot. Respecting the process and giving schools time to adjust should be part of the equation, even in this new era.
That said, I think it’s important to recognize that not every player is solely motivated by money. Like you mentioned, players like Nuss, Josh Williams, and the Weeks brothers exemplify loyalty and commitment to their schools. While the system has changed, there are still many athletes who value the tradition, culture, and opportunities their chosen schools provide.
As for Harold and others like him, you’re right that instant gratification can sometimes lead to challenges down the line. Whether it’s through the portal or struggles in their careers, the lessons of patience and loyalty often come full circle. Karma has a way of balancing things out.
At the end of the day, it’s a complex issue. Players should have the right to pursue their best opportunities, but the system needs to find a way to ensure fairness and integrity for all parties involved.
I agree that the word "commitment" carries weight and implies a level of loyalty that’s often missing in these situations. If a player sees their commitment as conditional or transactional, it would be more transparent to frame it that way. That would save schools—and fans—the frustration of last-minute changes.
Your point about timing is also spot-on. When players leave schools hanging right before signing day, it not only affects the program but also other athletes who might have taken that spot. Respecting the process and giving schools time to adjust should be part of the equation, even in this new era.
That said, I think it’s important to recognize that not every player is solely motivated by money. Like you mentioned, players like Nuss, Josh Williams, and the Weeks brothers exemplify loyalty and commitment to their schools. While the system has changed, there are still many athletes who value the tradition, culture, and opportunities their chosen schools provide.
As for Harold and others like him, you’re right that instant gratification can sometimes lead to challenges down the line. Whether it’s through the portal or struggles in their careers, the lessons of patience and loyalty often come full circle. Karma has a way of balancing things out.
At the end of the day, it’s a complex issue. Players should have the right to pursue their best opportunities, but the system needs to find a way to ensure fairness and integrity for all parties involved.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 11/29/24 at 4:48 pm to Draco Malfoy
I just wonder how things will go after the instant gratification is "done".
If instantly wealthy, will the drive still be there to pump the weights, run the sprints, etc. that it takes to be ready for college football. And, the NFL after that?
Will they go to class, or study, or care about a degree? Who needs these things if you have $millions at 18?
NIL should be a little bonus up-front, then monthly payments based on performance in class and in the practice facility.
If instantly wealthy, will the drive still be there to pump the weights, run the sprints, etc. that it takes to be ready for college football. And, the NFL after that?
Will they go to class, or study, or care about a degree? Who needs these things if you have $millions at 18?
NIL should be a little bonus up-front, then monthly payments based on performance in class and in the practice facility.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 4:52 pm to Awlunz Tiger
quote:
For LSU, just look at what Nuss did or Josh Williams. There is no questions they are there for LSU.
You have to look at the Week brothers who seem to love LSU.
Nuss = Dad is an NFL coach
Williams = Went to elite Houston high school in Episcopal
Weeks = Good family
Those kids come from families where money is not a daily concern.
Most of the kids getting recruited cannot make the same claim.
Can't believe I actually have to explain this.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:03 pm to Rouge
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Williams = Went to elite Houston high school in Episcopal
Your point is valid, but Williams went to Kinkaid, not Episcopal. You were close, they’re in the same district.
I doubt he ever expected to receive any kind of NIL money.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:03 pm to Rouge
None of the three you mentioned have ever been offered the amounts being thrown around the past two years. I love how good family = don’t care about money.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:05 pm to Gnash
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Gnash
You are correct. Thanks.
Both cost about as much to attend as it does to go to LSU.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:06 pm to Dizz
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love how good family = don’t care about money.
Well I can't really speak for what his parents do for a living. Also, big difference between don't care about money and don't worry about money.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:07 pm to Rouge
Can’t believe you posted this retarded shite either.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:16 pm to Rouge
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Also, big difference between don't care about money and don't worry about money
They are both very similar. You have no idea how much the weeks are getting in NIL. It’s possible to get paid and still be passionate about the school.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:24 pm to Dizz
The point is that money can be a factor for some kids. It is the factor for other kids. I can't imagine being 17 years old and having these types of pressures and being expected to be the main Breadwinner for the family.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:28 pm to Draco Malfoy
quote:
That said, I think it’s important to recognize that not every player is solely motivated by money. Like you mentioned, players like Nuss, Josh Williams, and the Weeks brothers exemplify loyalty and commitment to their schools. While the system has changed, there are still many athletes who
Nuss was very close to transferring. One of the weeks brothers transferred to lsu from Virginia.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:57 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Nuss was very close to transferring. One of the weeks brothers transferred to lsu from Virginia.
Lol dude my response was ChatGPT to his essay of a post. Zero chance I’m taking that much time to respond like that
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:04 pm to Awlunz Tiger
quote:
If all they want is the money, then never use the word "commit"...all that does is hold a certain paycheck until they find a higher bidder. So, they should simply say "I am playing for that school for that price but looking for a better deal!"
The only way to stop this is to allow players to sign whenever the money is offered.
For instance Player A decides to commit to a school, they sign his NLI and NIL deal that day, and can no longer communicate with other schools.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:20 pm to Rouge
quote:No high school kid should ever be expected to do this. If the family is expecting it, and I was the talented kid, I'd say no way. Maybe if they hit in the NFL, they can buy parents a house, etc., but not at this age.
expected to be the main Breadwinner for the family.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:50 pm to Awlunz Tiger
You sound like Jojo Siwa
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:40 pm to Rouge
quote:
Those kids come from families where money is not a daily concern. Most of the kids getting recruited cannot make the same claim
So glad saban is gone. He feasted on the latter
Posted on 11/30/24 at 1:06 am to Awlunz Tiger
Why do you keep saying instant gratification? These kids have been playing sports for years and putting time into the weight room etc. it ain’t instant 
Posted on 11/30/24 at 5:05 am to Rouge
Can't help because most of them have lazy families .
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:10 am to Draco Malfoy
“Your point about timing is also spot-on. When players leave schools hanging right before signing day, it not only affects the program but also other athletes who might have taken that spot. Respecting the process and giving schools time to adjust should be part of the equation, even in this new era.”
In theory if a player backs out of commitment, then the player who you are claiming spot was originally taken can now come get his offer back. It works both ways.
In theory if a player backs out of commitment, then the player who you are claiming spot was originally taken can now come get his offer back. It works both ways.
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