re: Michigan has offered NIL package on par with what LSU has presented to Bryce Underwood

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JJ McCarthy was a 5* coming out of IMG Academy. He was going to be a high pick anyway.

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Where's Walker Howard again? There's a long, long list of former 5*s that would like a word.

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You KNEW why McCarthy was drafted so high at 12:12 pm today:

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Uh, no I didn’t… I assume it’s because of his physical traits and potential.

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Their passing game this year is a total shite show. They are throwing for like 130 yards a game while we throw for 330.

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I know. I think a large portion of this is due to the fact that their quarterbacks are not good.

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Bryce was never going to Michigan, especially now that their QB production is truly in the pits.

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That’s great and I hope you are 100% correct.

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Bryce was never going to Michigan, especially now that their QB production is truly in the pits. It was never a selling point under Harbaugh really either (which is why they are where they are now). They won a title because of their defense and run game. McCarthy rarely did anything of note in their toughest games last season. The dude threw for 140 yards 0 TD in the NCG. He threw for 147 yards 0 TD in the Big Ten title game. He threw for 148 yards 1 TD against Ohio State. McCarthy was a total afterthought in their big games last year....

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You just talked about how bad of a QB he is and he still ended up a top 10 pick. Thats my point.

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McCarthy playing 2nd fiddle his whole career there probably ocst him many millions if he's truly a good QB. Jayden Daniels signed a first contract with a bigger signing bonus than McCarthy is set to make over the next 4 years despite him being a "top 10 pick".

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Well yeah, Jayden Daniels is a much better quarterback than McCarthy…

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And even still if he could be a high pick at LSU or Michigan...which offense would you rather play in? The one where the QB has been a complete afterthought for ages now or the one producing heismans?

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I mean I would pick LSU, but it probably doesn’t help that LSU’s quarterback currently has zero help in the run game and is forced to play hero ball every game.

I think and hope he comes to LSU. But people acting like there is absolutely no reason as to why he would choose to go to Michigan is dumb imo.

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Moreover, now that Harbaugh is gone, there is nothing to suggest that Michigan would add to McCarthy draft stock this year. Nor is there anything to suggest that Michigan would add anything to Underwood's draft stock for the next four years.

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So I’ll ask again, if McCarthy was on this year’s Michigan team, do you think he would be a high draft pick?

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So I'll answer it AGAIN, but I'm losing faith that this is a teachable moment and that you want to learn:

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Championship teams tend to add an aura of success to the players on that team. People tend to think of those players as "winners" whether they are the reason team won or not. In particular, QBs receive the benefit of that shine.

The championship Harbaugh brought Michigan certainly enhanced McCarthy's shine. But Michigan's scheme did little to develop him as a QB. He was #69 in the nation in passing yards per game last year.

Moreover, now that Harbaugh is gone, there is nothing to suggest that Michigan would add to McCarthy draft stock this year. Nor is there anything to suggest that Michigan would add anything to Underwood's draft stock for the next four years.

In conclusion, (1) the jury is still out on Jackson Arnold, (2) the current Michigan team is not helping anyone to be a high draft pick.

So endeth the lesson.

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But people acting like there is absolutely no reason as to why he would choose to go to Michigan is dumb imo.

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Underwood has repeatedly stated that he is NOT going to Michigan.

Underwood stated he wasn't going to Michigan even after Portnoy said he would give $3 million in NIL to lure a QB to Michigan.

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If he’s all he’s cracked up to be , it won’t matter where he goes , he will make it to the NFL.

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This is by far the most retarded statement and i can see from several other posts on this thread that the rant has creeped on the recruiting board. There are tons of 5 star or near 5 star level QB busts who wasted away on their first college team. Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix are the two most glaring in recent memory. See being a good QB out of high school doesn't mean shite if you cant be developed, have a competent offense to be in, or the talent around you to succeed. Michigan has absolutely NOTHING going for them offensively for any QB to waste away.


All this Underwood talk is completely stupid. If we are offering 2 mill and they are offering 2 mill, for example, there is literally no incentive to go to Michigan. I know people say all this dumb shite about staying home, but we have kids at University Lab that we have to fight tooth and nail for damn near every year. Underwood just saw Jayden Daniels light up the SEC for a heisman, drafted #2 overall, beat the #1 overall pick, put up an all time miracle play in a franchise's history, almost has ROY on lock, and is somehow in many people's actual NFL MVP conversations. And regardless of Nuss's ints, the man is still on pace for over 4200 yards and 32 TDs as a first year starter at LSU.

I still don't think people understand that Bryce knows LSU will have speed demons on offense all over in Harlem Berry, Phillip Wright, and Jelani Watkins. Big boss type WRs/TEs in Derek Meadows, Kylin Billiot, and Trey'Dez Green. Louisiana WRTS dawgs who don't get the respect in Taron Francis. LSU's OL, despite what you've seen from the running this year, will have blocking talent galore. Yall, we have the coaching staff to where no fixable problem will remain from year to year.

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There are LSU fans that want our offensive coordinator to be fired… And Michigan turned JJ McCarthy into a top 10 pick.

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No, he was picked for physical traits. 8 passes a game didn't turn him into a first round pick, Harbaugh did, and he is now gone. You have no idea who their QB coach is without looking it up do you?

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No, he was picked for physical traits. 8 passes a game didn't turn him into a first round pick, Harbaugh did, and he is now gone. You have no idea who their QB coach is without looking it up do you?

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So wait, was he picked because of his physical traits or because of Harbaugh?

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So wait, was he picked because of his physical traits or because of Harbaugh?

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Again skate around what i said. I said two things didn't I? In one sentence i said traits and in another sentence i said Harbaugh. Put it together clown. What is not there anymore? Underwood has the physical traits, but he does not have a Harbaugh. Despite what people saying about Sloan's play calling (he is still developing there), he has been an excellent QB coach for Daniels and Nuss. Even Collins improved from his freshman to redshirt freshman year.