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re: Michigan cheater Connor Stallions is now coaching Underwood

Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:09 am to
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17021 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:09 am to
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You really don’t understand how people like Underwood think.

He’s looking at the offense and thinking: I would do so much better than Nuss.

Let me be clear, I think Underwood ends up at LSU. But you have to use the same logic for all schools. You can't say he looks at the LSU bad offensive performance and thinks "I can do so much better" but then when he looks at a bad Michigan performance he think "why would I want to play for a bad offense"
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13218 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:10 am to
Nuss is not the biggest issue with this offense. Sloan being the play caller is. He sucks at it, and if LSU sticks with him just to snag a great talent like Underwood, but sacrificing a legit offense for the foreseeable future, then LSU is in serious trouble.

A legitimate OC search should have taken place last year instead of pandering to two position coaches that are not qualified just with a recruit in mind.
Posted by Bigbody1603
Keithville,LA
Member since Oct 2014
136 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:30 am to
I have to disagree with you. Your play call is limited when your qb makes poor decisions. Also how many times have we had a first down and penalties bought us back 10 more yards. How many times could Nuss could have ran the ball to move the chains and he throws the ball in tight coverages. Y’all can only blame the coach for so much but a lot of our problem has been poor decisions on the players.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66430 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:36 am to
So the HS team thought it was a good idea to replace their OC in the middle of the playoffs. There just happens to be a possible generational QB there committed to LSU that Michigan is making a big play for. The replacement OC is a former Michigan employee who now does some work for Barstool. The same Barstool chaired by the guy who said he’d open the checkbook for said QB. The replacement OC also was a DC at his last HS stop and got beat by 60 in his only HC game.

Yeah…..this all sounds legit.
Posted by Donkus
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2013
1456 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:03 am to
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Nuss is not the biggest issue with this offense. Sloan being the play caller is.


While Sloan definitely has his 'WTF was that call' moments, I'll cut him some slack because he only has half of the playbook to use. Underwood knows that. Nuss IS the issue when you can't call option plays, and performs badly on the plays you can call for him.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13218 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:19 am to
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While Sloan definitely has his 'WTF was that call' moments, I'll cut him some slack because he only has half of the playbook to use.


Why is that? Because doesn't run lie Jayden did? Sloan is awful, predictable and overrated as hell. He is a great QB coach, sure, but as a playcaller, he is just bad.

You can call out nearly every play they run at the snap he is so damn predictable.

Sloan having so many defenders on here is hilarious.
Posted by Donkus
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2013
1456 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:53 am to
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Why is that? Because doesn't run lie Jayden did?


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performs badly on the plays you can call for him.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65134 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:04 am to
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You can call out nearly every play they run at the snap


It's because everything is soooo slow. From getting the play in, to making checks, the motions, and actually hiking the ball. We're basically running an old school air raid offense, but a glacial pace where the defense has ages to line up, check, and recheck their alignments.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9564 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:09 am to
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It's because everything is soooo slow. From getting the play in, to making checks, the motions, and actually hiking the ball. We're basically running an old school air raid offense, but a glacial pace where the defense has ages to line up, check, and recheck their alignments.
THIS is very correct!
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18949 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:14 am to
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NCAA suspended him for 3 years according to the Netflix special. Sounded like there was going to be an appeal, but haven’t heard anything.


And also according to the Netflix special, he is obsessed with Michigan to a weird degree and will go to any limit to help the program. Having him around Underwood is clearly an attempt to sway him.

Posted by TheGeauxt18
Member since Aug 2018
333 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:37 am to
This is what's weird to me. After watching the show, it was clear that Michigan threw that guy under the bus to save face. He's had every reason to speak out against Michigan... yet he hasn't. After how they fricked him, it blows my mind that his allegiance still lies with that school.
Posted by geauxGreeks
Member since Sep 2012
1831 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:48 am to
Watched to the end just to see if they put that bucknut bank robber in the octagon for Connor to unmask and open a can of whoopass on him.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53917 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Your play call is limited when your qb makes poor decisions.



Underwood would feast on some of these wide arse open lanes that Nuss wont step into. Then everyone will be saying how great Sloan is.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14863 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:59 pm to
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He’s looking at the offense and thinking: I would do so much better than Nuss.



So would a glue trap. At least a glue trap would t fumble the ball when we actually had a chance to get back in the game.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14863 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Sloan having so many defenders on here is hilarious.


I’d say the same about Nuss at this point. He may progress into a good QB but as it stands right now, he is not.

JDs first year here he showed moments of pure greatness that most of us could see clearly. It was also pretty obvious to most of us that his faults were not in his ability but more his trust in his receivers. That changed in his second season as he had more time with those receivers. He knew they had the ability to make the plays in his second season and he started throwing bombs to them.

The issues with Nuss are all his own current ability and mentality. He can’t run, that much is glaringly obvious yet he still thinks he has to always make some grandiose play even when it’s not there. Maybe he doesn’t quite have the receiver talent JD had. That’s all the more reason for him to learn to protect the ball more and less reason for him to believe he can make a play out of nothing.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78506 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:38 pm to
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And also according to the Netflix special, he is obsessed with Michigan to a weird degree and will go to any limit to help the program. Having him around Underwood is clearly an attempt to sway him.


Having the Stan of Michigan football coming around bugging you to go there doesn't seem like the best approach.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:46 pm to
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This is what's weird to me. After watching the show, it was clear that Michigan threw that guy under the bus to save face. He's had every reason to speak out against Michigan... yet he hasn't. After how they fricked him, it blows my mind that his allegiance still lies with that school


There is a good chance he was given a large sum of money to keep a smile on his face.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
9773 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Michigan staffer is now coaching high school?

He was coaching at another high school last month.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28956 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:07 am to
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Let me be clear, I think Underwood ends up at LSU. But you have to use the same logic for all schools. You can't say he looks at the LSU bad offensive performance and thinks "I can do so much better" but then when he looks at a bad Michigan performance he think "why would I want to play for a bad offense"
When i tell people you love to play devil's advocate and you deny it, here you are doing that exact shite yet again.

It's pretty simple. LSU isn't completely fricking inept at offense like Michigan is. I don't care what anybody says, that was some unbelievable bullshite vs Bama. Bama had by far the worst defense we had played all year power 5, and we did the worst against them. LSU went up and down vs TAMU's better defense with only passing. The problem there was Nuss throwing interceptions like he played for the other team. 400 passing yards and 2 passing TDs. Michigan has thrown for over 165 yards only twice this entire year. They have 4 games under 5 yards per pass attempt. They have only 2 games over 6.6 yards per pass attempt. Despite how bad Nuss has been with turnovers, he only has 2 more in 135 extra attempts than Michigan does. He has 11 more TDs in 135 extra attempts.

Like our opponents on defense keep saying, Nuss makes it super easy to defend LSU's offense. Bryce in the same offense would be insanely better simply for the fact that he brings an improved run game. Nuss has the worst penchant of throwing interceptions since Anthony Jennings, and he does that backpedaling lob interception crap like Jarrett Lee.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28956 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:39 am to
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Underwood would feast on some of these wide arse open lanes that Nuss wont step into. Then everyone will be saying how great Sloan is.
this is what i keep saying. Nuss leaves money on the table every single game. Look at Nuss passing the ball. The passing offense is right freaking there! Nuss himself does stupid ish that results in bad plays passing, but the offense has passing down.

I know people are talking crap about the rush offense, which could be improved with research by the OC and HC in the offseason, but got damn LSU in 2022 running the same run plays (we always called Denbrock trash too for running the same plays too right), had zero problems with any RB they threw out there. Notre Dame now with a running QB like Leonard is running all over teams. Denbrock didn't change his running plays when he went to ND. We had problems last year in the rush offense from RBs once Diggs got injured. However over a 6 week span with 5 of those games vs SEC opponents, if he got at least 14 carries, he had no less than 97 yards. I will also not take the notion that run blocking declined because of center Turner. Nuss taking off makes run blocking look even worse. Nuss being predictable in read option and handoffs (not RPO), is predictable. Again, defenders are telling in interviews that they know what he is doing.

These are numbers after Diggs got injured and they didn't play him much
Bama Daniels 11 for 163 1 TD, RBs 13 for 43 1 TD
Florida Daniels 12 for 234 2 TD, RBs 22 for 93 2 TD
Georgia St Daniels 10 for 96 2 TD, RBs 13 for 73
TAMU Daniels 11 for 120, RBs 18 for 34 2 TD

If LSU starts Underwood, or hell, even Collins next year, the run game will be back, trust me. I
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