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re: Message from LSU Compliance regarding Message Boards
Posted on 8/16/08 at 2:35 pm to Prodigal Tiger
Posted on 8/16/08 at 2:35 pm to Prodigal Tiger
quote:
Blue,
I think the point is that these boards are anonymous, so what is the point of even trying to regulate or fool with them. You called it "cowardly" to pose as a booster of another school to try to screw with that school. My response is so what if it's cowardly, that doesn't affect the outcome of someone doing that. Do you think Bama fans would not, if given the opportunity, pose as Vols to get UT in trouble? When it happens, we can label those fans cowards if we want, but what then? Will anyone even know it was Bama fans posing as Vols? It is absolutely ridiculous for the NCAA to even attempt to micromanage communication between citizens in this regard. The ways that these "rules" could be manipulated are so vast that I can't even begin to list them.
Is this the best system? I don't know, but it's the one by which all of our favorite schools must abide, and have agreed to abide by. All I can tell you is that, in this case, the NCAA's primary mission is to protect the kids, not the fans or the universities they support.
Think of it as a matter of perspective. Try not to be a fan for just a second. Like I said earlier, imagine your not a fan, but a parent of a 5-star recruit in - for the sake of example - Alaska. The only people you want influencing your son or daughter are those who have their best interests at heart. Namely, family, friends, teachers, coaches, etc. Not from crazed fans from Fl, CA, OH, LA, TX, etc. The vast majority of those fans have only one interest at heart here - their school to win at any cost.
Being that parent in Alaska, you'd be pretty pissed to find your son or daughter being convinced to go to any school by people you don't even know, and probably have no vested interest in you child's future and well being.
Most of these types of parents just want crazed college fans to stay far away from their kids, and they don't care which college gets sanctioned to keep that from happening. Who am I to say these parents are in the wrong? That's pretty much the stance of the NCAA also, in this case. Again, their main mission, in this case, is to PROTECT the kids, not the fans or the universities.
Is it fair? Doesn't matter. PROTECT the kids, not the fans or the universities, in this situation.
Is it right? I have a hard time saying it's not when I look at it from the standpoint of a parent and not a fan.
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Posted on 8/16/08 at 3:32 pm to Bluethought
Tigergrl73 please email me.
This post was edited on 8/16/08 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 8/17/08 at 1:34 am to Crumble
quote:
This would be a good show for The Rant. Get a representative from the NCAA to come on and let us drill 'em.
I hope its a girl.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:19 am to Chicken
Typical. This is one of the most ridiculous, backwards, unenforcable pieces of excrement that I've ever seen. Only a Democrat could have come up with something like this!
Hey, I can't wait until NSD! I haven't been able to speak with my son, my neighbors or the checkout boy at Albertsons for months because I'm an LSU fan and they're all considering the Tigers!
Crazy.
By the way, rantards, I don't really have a son who's old enough to attend LSU. When he is old enough, unless he gets into Harvard Med or something, he'd better be in P&G.
Hey, I can't wait until NSD! I haven't been able to speak with my son, my neighbors or the checkout boy at Albertsons for months because I'm an LSU fan and they're all considering the Tigers!
Crazy.
By the way, rantards, I don't really have a son who's old enough to attend LSU. When he is old enough, unless he gets into Harvard Med or something, he'd better be in P&G.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 12:44 pm to Bluethought
quote:
Think of it as a matter of perspective. Try not to be a fan for just a second
If you think I am evaluating this as a fan then you don't understand what I'm saying, so let me clear this up:
Contacting recruits via any medium regarding where they attend school is stupid unless that person is your personal friend or family member, or unless you are a college coach.
If you contact a kid through his facebook or myspace page you are a freak who needs to be dragged into the street and whipped.
If I had a kid who was being recruited, I would want him left alone by everyone except those just listed.
My point is that trying to regulate such stupid activity is a pointless exercise that the unscrupulous among us can use to hurt our hated rivals. To say that you will attempt to regulate or affect anonymous internet postings demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how modern society communicates.
I will guarantee you that whoever drafted this rule is a guy who has his assistant print out his e-mails and read them to him. He then hand-writes responses that his assistant sends out as e-mails.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 1:03 pm to Prodigal Tiger
I see your point but all I see is reporters calling and doing all the bugging. The fans all through up hookem horns (put any team saying here) or point to the shirt they are wearing with college logo. It's like how many fans stalk movie stars? All I ever hear is about the reporters always bugging them. As I have said in the past it's ok to be a pest if you make money off of them but don't to talk to them if you are not greedy enough to make money off of a high school kid. You see it's the money makers who make the rules so don't mess with their cash cow you peion (hope I spelled it correct) fans.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 3:16 pm to Born to be a Tiger
How about we do this to satisfy everyone. How about all of you imagine that I am a five star prospective recruit. Say all of your nice things to me. Send all of the illegal money to me. Send the strippers and hookers to me house. I also need a new convertible. Then you will feel as though you have done your part, and I will help you feel good about yourself. And together we will keep LSU out of trouble.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 5:25 pm to Born to be a Tiger
The message primarily pertains to this website and one other. You can't have a Drayton Calhoun type interview on an LSU fansite and, for that reason, I expect that DD had done his last recruit interview.
These are NCAA rules not LSU rules. National recruiting services don't face these types of issues because they are not a booster for any one team.
You can still do what you've been doing when it comes to interacting with recruits that you have personally known for years. That is a different matter and the NCAA has exceptions for those situations.
These are NCAA rules not LSU rules. National recruiting services don't face these types of issues because they are not a booster for any one team.
You can still do what you've been doing when it comes to interacting with recruits that you have personally known for years. That is a different matter and the NCAA has exceptions for those situations.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 5:56 pm to Monk
quote:DD doesnt recruit for LSU. If he did then he would have been barred from those interviews a long time ago dont you think?
I expect that DD had done his last recruit interview.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 6:38 pm to Cadello
DD is obviously an LSU booster. He won't be doing any recruit interviews next year.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 6:57 pm to Monk
Thats sad its come to this. Only people that can make money off the kids can interview them now?
NCAA botched it again.
NCAA botched it again.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 7:52 pm to Cadello
I don't know anyone that isn't making some $$ of the recruits. Even DD makes $$ off his website. Of course, he works pretty hard at it so I'm not suggesting that he shouldn't earn some money for his work.
It's a weird biz. The kids get calls at all hours of the day but the pub helps them get free college and most like the attention so they get something out of it too. But you're right, the national websites can do things that the NCAA won't let the smaller fan-specific websites do.
It's a weird biz. The kids get calls at all hours of the day but the pub helps them get free college and most like the attention so they get something out of it too. But you're right, the national websites can do things that the NCAA won't let the smaller fan-specific websites do.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:30 pm to Cadello
That's my problem with the rule. The only people bugging top recruits are the reporters from radio, print, tv and internet who are making a lot of dollars off these kids. These kids need someone to help them manage their time with the reporters. These kids get taken advantage of because they don't know how to say "no" or "let me schedule you at a time best for me and my dad and/or mom." Also these reporters should let the kid and dad and/or mom read the article first before print. This way the family can get prepaired for slanted reporting. This IMHO is what needs to be fixed not some kid getting on the internet and talking to fans of a team he or she wants to attend. The fans did not bug them until they finally gave an interview. I'm sorry, I've tried to keep the rantard in me under control, but it's hard to keep it in all the time.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:34 pm to Monk
quote:Not true...the two pay sites were sent the same message. Recruits cannot interact on message boards on those sites either.
But you're right, the national websites can do things that the NCAA won't let the smaller fan-specific websites do.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:36 pm to Chicken
quote:WOW ..I wonder what their reactions were.
Not true...the two pay sites were sent the same message
Posted on 8/17/08 at 11:22 pm to Chicken
Thanks for the information Chicken. I will be able to sleep better now. I hope I didn't do anything wrong on this site to cause the e-mail from LSU.
Posted on 8/18/08 at 8:32 am to Chicken
Correct, they were all sent the same message. However, as a general rule, recruits don't interact with fans on those national sites so that wasn't a problem for them. That event was pretty much limited to THIS site.
The point I made was in reference to DD. The national websites can and will continue to interview recruits. I do not think DD will contiune to do that.
The point I made was in reference to DD. The national websites can and will continue to interview recruits. I do not think DD will contiune to do that.
Posted on 8/18/08 at 12:29 pm to Monk
quote:If you are right I'll give you your props for knowing that. If you are wrong then you are talking out your arse.
The point I made was in reference to DD
Time will tell.
Posted on 8/18/08 at 7:21 pm to Chicken
How does the NCAA know these people are who they claim they are?
Posted on 8/18/08 at 8:22 pm to Pilot Tiger
NCAA= pussies
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