re: Message from LSU Compliance regarding Message Boards

What is stupid and wrong about the rule is that the recruit MAY and DEFINITLY has the right to seek advice for his choice in school. If I were a recruit I would 100% without a doubt ASK someone that has attended the school about the things they like. Are you saying that threatening the recruit with a violation for seeking advice and people answered such questions is NOT a violation of freedom of speech??

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PestTiger

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Soooooooooooo what's your e-mail address?

reposting, because you people don't seem to get it --

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I'm not gonna read all 6 pages of this, but think about what the NCAA and schools like LSU are really saying by posting this "warning" on their message boards. Foremost -- aside from a "booster" lavishing gifts or otherwise, which is obviously the easisest way for everyone to get in trouble with the NCAA, the only other ways for a school to get into hot water with its "boosters" is through a LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. That is the deadly phrase that scares all schools. But when it comes to message boards, there's no way to inhibit the free flow of communication. You can't sanction any individual -- recruit or otherwise -- from exercising their rights of free speech guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. But the NCAA can sanction an athletic program. So how does a school exercise its duties to do what it can to ensure "institutional control" over recruiting activities? It posts a "warning" like the one that is on the first page of this thread. And that's the end of it. LSU has fulfilled its duty. What more can it do? But if a recruit wants to engage in a dialogue with me, you, or even Unknown, no one can prevent that -- not even the NCAA. LSU is on record of doing what it can in exercising all "institutional control" at its disposal -- and so it's off the hook. Bottom line -- no one should get their panties in a wad over this. LSU has crossed its i's and dotted its t's.

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why would rivals be an exception?

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I think this means I can talk to any recruit, tell them they should go to Auburn, and as long as I notify Auburn that I have done this (even after the fact), Auburn has committed an NCAA violation. Worse, if they don't self-report their violation, they commit another violation. All the while I can make absolutely clear at all times to all I talk to that I hate Auburn and am really an LSU fan. But because I told him he should go to Auburn, I'm assisting them in recruiting him, and once they know about it, I'm a booster.

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It really doesn't matter at all(IN THE EYES OF THE NCAA) if fans think, A) that's stupid, B) that's unfair, C) that's unreasonable, D) that's un-governable (what if it's an Alabama fan doing it?), E) (my personal favorite) that's against the First Amendment (which has nothing to do with NCAA rules). Remember what I wrote earlier - the NCAA is not trying to protect fans or universities in this case. They are protecting the student athletes at all costs, and they are making the universities responsible for ensuring that that happens - and fans are considered an extension of the university. You may disagree, but that's the way it is for the only people that matter, the NCAA.

Yes, you could go around trying to talk to recruits as an Auburn fan, but don't you think that's rather cowardly? I would think a true fan thinks their team would be able to win ON THE FIELD. That's just petty and unsportsman-like, in my opinion. I'm not trying to be harsh, but that seems like a pretty cheap way to get an advantage over your opponent.

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Nice dissertation, now... Who the frick are you and who gives a shite? This is nothing more than CYA by LSU. Carry on as usual on this site. Any kid that comes to this site is not being approached by anyone.

This site is for entertainment and amusement, nothing else.

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To be honest, I'm only an LSU fan by proxy; my wife graduated from there. My fandom lies with another school. But I know my way around a NCAA compliance office, and I thought the members of this board might find it educational, or simply like to see things through the eyes of the NCAA. If you don't like what I had to say, I'm sorry, but that doesn't change the validity of the statement. If you don't believe what I wrote, you (collectively) feel free to inappropriately contact recruits, I really don't care. But if LSU finds out that you've (collectively, again) done such, they MUST self report to the NCAA that they've committed a secondary violation.

Also, this site may be for entertainment and amusement to you and the other members who post here. But, and unfortunately, the NCAA (the only party that matters in this case) sees it differently. Fair? Probably not, but that's just the way it is.

Michigan fan by any chance?

But the guy in the DC incident isnt even a fan of LSU. Thats what makes this so stupid. he initiated this and made it happen, all the people here did was respond. I highly doubt, that could in any way be construed as intent of any fan here to do what that rule is suppose to prevent.
There was no collusion here by any LSU fan or booster.

Blue in your name...BigBlue is what they call them isnt it?
Now you sound like a OSU fan by that post.

Blue,
I think the point is that these boards are anonymous, so what is the point of even trying to regulate or fool with them. You called it "cowardly" to pose as a booster of another school to try to screw with that school. My response is so what if it's cowardly, that doesn't affect the outcome of someone doing that. Do you think Bama fans would not, if given the opportunity, pose as Vols to get UT in trouble? When it happens, we can label those fans cowards if we want, but what then? Will anyone even know it was Bama fans posing as Vols? It is absolutely ridiculous for the NCAA to even attempt to micromanage communication between citizens in this regard. The ways that these "rules" could be manipulated are so vast that I can't even begin to list them.