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re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker

Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Wade wanted to bring some guys from NC State and wanted to retain some LSU players


The only guys he really wanted to bring from NC State were guys who were hoping to get a 5th year. Mcneil would have been a take for about 2/3 of what he was asking for, that's it. Also the only guy from last year's LSU team he wanted to retain was Nwoko but he did not want to pay 3 mil.
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:19 pm to
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The only guys he really wanted to bring from NC State were guys who were hoping to get a 5th year. Mcneil would have been a take for about 2/3 of what he was asking for, that's it. Also the only guy from last year's LSU team he wanted to retain was Nwoko but he did not want to pay 3 mil.


If Wade didn't want to retain Miller and Reece, then why did it take them so long to enter the portal? I would think that was an indication that they had gotten an offer from LSU and were negotiating, but ultimately couldn't agree on terms. If Wade didn't want them, I think he would've told them, and they would've entered the portal quickly to improve their odds of getting other offers.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:21 pm to
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If they didn't come to an agreement with the guys wanting to leave it must have been for a good reason.


Well, the issue becomes you are then at the mercy of who does or doesn’t enter the portal. Next thing you know you’re catching a plane to Europe to find talent
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:32 pm to
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the issue becomes you are then at the mercy of who does or doesn’t enter the portal. Next thing you know you’re catching a plane to Europe to find talent


Isn’t everyone at the mercy of who does or doesn’t enter the portal? What if a coach thinks he can get better players in Europe?

Lots of variables to consider huh? I mean it’s not like McMahon recruited very well. If he did, then he’s clearly not the coach some on here make him out to be
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:42 pm to
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Isn’t everyone at the mercy of who does or doesn’t enter the portal? What if a coach thinks he can get better players in Europe?


Everyone is, just at varying levels. I mean you just said this in your next sentence.

If you have 9 spots to fill vs a handful, your approach will be different and the impact of not landing guys you really want will be felt. Same applies if it’s a down year, like this one.




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I mean it’s not like McMahon recruited very well. If he did, then he’s clearly not the coach some on here make him out to be


What’s McMahon have to do with anything? Why is he even brought up still?
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:44 pm to
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you have 9 spots to fill vs a handful, your approach will be different and the impact of not landing guys you really want will be felt. Same applies if it’s a down year, like this one.


I agree. When your roster sucks you are in a tough spot.

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What’s McMahon have to do with anything? Why is he even brought up still?


Highlighting the fact that Wade didn’t really want to keep any of the roster. At most maybe one or two kids. I can’t imagine there was anyone else worth paying
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:53 pm to
Assuming players aren’t good cause they were on a bad team is short sighted & just kind of ignorant, actually.
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3894 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:04 pm to
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Assuming players aren’t good cause they were on a bad team is short sighted & just kind of ignorant, actually.


You’re assuming what my basis for my statement was the team’s record and that’s inaccurate.

There were a couple of kids who I’m sure Wade would’ve kept for the right price but I doubt he’s losing sleep over not keeping anyone either. Look at the landing spots of all but 3 kids. That says a lot about how many others view their talent level.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:18 pm to
Not interested the playing the semantics game. We can get it out the way that McMahon was a shitty coach and his rosters were poor. But Just because the roster was “bad” doesn’t mean there aren’t good players to take from it.

Losing your guards to Houston & Texas A&M and turning around and signing Michigan St’s backup PG for $2mil does not seem like a planned thing to me, but hey, what do I know? And I like Ugo. But that really needs to hit at this point.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:46 pm to
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Losing your guards to Houston & Texas A&M and turning around and signing Michigan St’s backup PG for $2mil does not seem like a planned thing to me, but hey, what do I know? And I like Ugo. But that really needs to hit at this point.


And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Today’s talking point.

“The players that we let walk are better than the recent commitments.”

No credit can ever be given to the new staff in place. Still simping for a team/regime that finished DEAD LAST in the SEC. It’s a sickness.
Posted by Casual
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:58 pm to
The insinuation from some people that Dedan Thomas is not a high level power conference guard is pretty funny.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70480 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:01 pm to
It’s weird that you guys keep saying this. Good player sure but he wasn’t a top 4-5 SEC guard last year so how is he a “High level power conference guard”? Some of you guys were saying he was better than Acuff before he was injured, that’s crazy.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70480 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:04 pm to
Called it
Posted by Casual
Member since Apr 2026
27 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:17 pm to
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It’s weird that you guys keep saying this. Good player sure but he wasn’t a top 4-5 SEC PG last year so how is he a “High level power conference guard”?

The fact there were other good guards in the league doesn't make Thomas any worse. Ugo wasn't a top 20 PG in the Big 10, what's make you think he's better?
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Some of you guys were saying he was better than Acuff before he was injured, that’s crazy.

Who is "you guys"? I certainly never said or thought that.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290774 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:18 pm to
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No credit can ever be given to the new staff in place. Still simping for a team/regime that finished DEAD LAST in the SEC. It’s a sickness.


You continue to confess what you’re actually doing, thinking accusing others hides it. Your game is out of runway, you weren’t smart enough to keep it going.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70480 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:20 pm to
Yes, other players being better means he was worse than they were.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290774 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:21 pm to
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The insinuation from some people that Dedan Thomas is not a high level power conference guard is pretty funny.


They will Deflect and conflate to produce a false narratives.
Posted by Casual
Member since Apr 2026
27 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Yes, other players being better means he was worse than they were.

You're either being purposefully obtuse or you're just retarded. I'm leaning towards the latter.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70480 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:31 pm to
lol never fails, can’t refute the statement so you go straight to name calling.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 5:32 pm
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
404 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:35 pm to
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Are you saying they weren't SEC level players? Or just not a good fit together in CMM's "system" (such as it was)?


No I am saying that if any SEC coach would have chosen those two or similar players as their backcourt. As in both are SEC caliber players, Thomas would probably be a really really nice 7th man or first guard off the bench of an SEC team that is looking to go to the tournament, and probably could start at 7 or 8 SEC schools, but if you have him out there his running mate can’t be a Max Mackinnon you have no chance to be competitive. Flip side you get Max Mackinnon, probably a firecracker bench role player that brings instant offense on most SEC teams minus the top 2-3. But you cannot have those two together. It doesn’t matter the system. So regardless of what I think about each one individually, maybe on a different team with a complimentary backcourt player not only would they have done better but reached another level and figured out how to contribute to winning SEC basketball. Neither IMO are good enough where you build a backcourt around them.

Context matters as well:

Year 1: Backcourt of 6’2 Cam Hayes (NC State transfer) 6’2 Trae Hannibal (Murray State transfer) and 5’11 Justice Hill (Murray State transfer). You bring in very undersized, unathletic, mid major experienced players, that are not good defenders individually and if they play need help. They each need high usage rates with the ball to get anywhere near net positive ratings.
Team goes 2-16 in SEC play and finishes dead last.

Year 3: Bring in 5’10 Jordan Sears (UT-Martin transfer) 6’3 Cam Carter (Kansas State transfer)

Pretty much same deficiencies as the year one backcourt. Yeah Carter came from the Big-12 , played bigger than 6’3, so instead of 5 outright player traits he didn’t have, that no player will overcome in 5 months Carter was only lacking 3. Team goes 3-15 in SEC play and oh goodie they are improving they finish second to last in the SEC.

Year 4: Brings in Thomas and Mackinnon, undersized, unathletic, inexperienced, horrible defenders, that really only bring net positive value with the ball in their hands on really bad teams.
Team finishes 3-15 and dead last in the SEC.


It’s not working. No other SEC team did that. The other bottom dwellers have backcourts with experienced high major recruits or transfers. Of the 5 worst teams in the SEC only one had a backcourt where both were under 6’3. Even other bad SEC school the bottom 5, had backcourts with guys that had played at Ohio State, Miami, Texas Tech, and other big schools, athletic, 6’6 to 6’7 and better defenders than offensive players in the SEC.

In Year 2: Brought in a 6’5 guard from Vanderbilt that had some defensive chops, efficient offensive scorer, and played bigger than his height and weight. When Cook was on the team he had transferred in from Tulane but had played at LSU already, even at 6’0 was very athletic for his height, not a great defender but you had Mwani Wilkinson at 6’5 who was a very good defender, really athletic, and a 6’8 bean pole in Tyrell Ward that had no polish offensively but could guard 4 positions and was an athletic freak. The team goes 9-9 and is competitive.
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