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re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker

Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by tigahlovah
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:04 pm to
Fair enough. But as big of an LSU fan as I am, I like to speculate UNTIL we find out.

I read the Kiffin and Wade situations pretty spot on in regard to our pursuit of each coach. Every day that passed convinced me more that we were hiring each of them. You can check my post history back then if you doubt me.

And I understand I could be completely wrong about Luis. I just don't think I am.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:07 pm to
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but he took over a very successful mid major and he actually led them to the first losing season since 1986-1987 season. He had solid success as well, but that was fairly typical of Murray State.


So fricking what. He was very succesful there over a seven year period. If he was that bad he would have had multiple losing seasons and been fired. Some of you people love negative spin.

You conveniently left out that he was succeeded at Murray by the formerly very successful head coach that he ahd replace and the former successful coach was 45-52 and 20=31 MVC and was terminated. Sometimes second go rounds don't work as well as the first. Take heed.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 11:19 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:16 pm to
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So fricking what. He was very succesful there over a five year period. If he was that bad he would have had multiple losing seasons and been fired. Some of you people love negative spin
The what is you said he would easily get a mid major job due to his previous success. I stated the fact that he had a losing season and a .500 season which is something none of the other previous coaches had done since 1987. I know facts hurt your brain and shouting about the looming draconian sanctions of losing 1 scholarship is what really did him in.

Also, that’s not negative spin, I clearly said he had success as well, but it’s another fact that both of the previous two coaches prior to CoachMc matched his high of a 31 win season. It certainly wasn’t something unheard of for them. If anything you come from a completely slanted and bias stance and ignore things that actually happened in lieu of your hypotheticals.
Posted by tigersbb
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:22 pm to
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I stated the fact that he had a losing season and a .500 season which is something none of the other previous coaches had done since 1987.


You cherry picked one season against six others to try to make a point. You conveniently left out that he was succeeded at Murray by the formerly very successful head coach that he had replaced and the former successful coach was 45-52 and 20=31 MVC and was terminated. Sometimes second go rounds don't work as well as the first. Take heed.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:23 pm to
Are you just trying to skull frick every basketball recruiting thread?
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:25 pm to
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Are you just trying to skull frick every basketball recruiting thread?


Np. a-hole, I am making a salient point unlike your stupid arse irrelevant comments.

Its alsao interesting that some of you got the coach you wanted for over a year yet you still continue to talk about the coach who is no longer here. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE SKULL frickING THE THREAD.
THIS IS WADE'S frickING TEAM REGARDLESS SO frickING FOCUS ON WHAT HE IS DOING.AND WHAT HE ACHIEVES GOING FORWARD. HE HAS EIGHT PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER , HALF OF WHOM HAVE THEIR ELIGIBILITY IN QUESTION.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:27 pm to
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You conveniently left out that he was succeeded at Murray by the formerly very successful head coach that he had replaced and the former successful coach was 45-52 and 20=31 MVC and was terminated.
That literally has nothing to do with CoachMc’s stint at Murray State and the state of the program he inherited. That has to do with Prohm.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:29 pm to
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Np. a-hole, I am making a salient point unlike your stupid arse irrelevant comments.
Who couldn’t see a reply like this coming from tigersbb soon. Like clockwork.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:34 pm to
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That literally has nothing to do with CoachMc’s stint at Murray State and the state of the program he inherited. That has to do with Prohm.


You said McMahon's success was built on the prior coaches successes. So why wasn't it so easy for Prohm to keep the train rolling?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:53 pm to
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You said McMahon's success was built on the prior coaches successes. So why wasn't it so easy for Prohm to keep the train rolling?
Again, that’s irrelevant to CoachMc’s tenure. My point clearly is that CoachMc didn’t build Murray State into a successful program. He maintained it with more lows than the last ~4 decades of head coaches. Prohm’s second stint failure has nothing to do with CoachMc easily getting a mid major next year due to all his past success at Murray State. He has a total of 5 seasons with a winning conference record in 11 seasons as a head coach. I’m not saying he won’t get another HC job, but you act like AD’s will be breaking his door down to hire him.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:57 pm to
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Its alsao interesting that some of you got the coach you wanted for over a year yet you still continue to talk about the coach who is no longer here.
I replied to you talking about CoachMc and the skewed ridiculousness you always post about draconian sanctions, all the massive injuries, zero players, etc. I wouldn’t have said anything about CoachMc if you didn’t make your post about CoachMc.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:05 am to
Back to the actual topic, I don’t see anyone important really panicking, it all has to play out and there are multiple parties involved.

I would say Luis Jr. being on campus and practicing would offer some optimism and he was considered the most questionable for qualification.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
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Member since Feb 2011
9084 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:18 am to
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a-hole, I am making a salient point unlike your stupid arse irrelevant comments.



Same old tired act
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 12:21 am
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:21 am to
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I wouldn’t have said anything about CoachMc if you didn’t make your post about CoachMc.


I didn't just suddenly decide to insert McMahon into the thread. There was a multip[le post conversation going between everal posters before I made any comments. I was responding to Alt 26 sith relevant points, While I may disagree with him he always supports his arguments as I also do. Again, I diodn't start that fire, but I brought some smoke.

Its high time McMahon disappears from all threads aboput LSU basketball. Ther eis an insatiable need for a villain for many of the posters on here and they just can't seem to let go of McMahon, Its Wade's program nowand what he does from recruiting to coaching will determine how successful the program will be. Based upon his prior history there is reason for optimism, but its not a sure thing. This is a much tougher league than he left it and hopefully he can begin recruiting players with known eligibility.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 12:22 am
Posted by Circle K Beggar
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:24 am to
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Back to the actual topic, I don’t see anyone important really panicking, it all has to play out and there are multiple parties involved.


Interesting. I’ll stay tuned.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:34 am to
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McMahon will easily land a mid major job next season if he wants it based upon hi s recrod prior to LSU.


I don't think I would go that far. I wouldn't be surprised to see the general consensus be that his success was simply a byproduct of a great pre-NIL/transfer era Murray State program, not something he accomplished in large part on his own merit.

MSU churned out major conf. coaches for decades prior to McMahon. Steve Netwon (South Carolina), Mark Gottfried (Alabama), Mick Cronin (Cincinnati), Billy Kennedy (A&M), Steve Prohm (Iowa St). McMahon was on Prohm's MSU staff. After a few decent seasons, Prohm was awful at Iowa State in the NIL era...culminating with a 2-22 (0-18)_season in his final year. His successor, TJ Oltzenberger, immediately turned ISU around and has made them one of the best programs in the country.

Murray re-hired Prohm to replace McMahon assuming Prohm would just pick up where he left off. He didn't. Prohm had a losing record at MSU in his three seasons and they were a non-factor. The market is going to say "How do we know McMahon is not Prohm 2.0? Awful major conf. coach who may have been a byproduct of an established program?"

Hell, the marketplace kind of showed McMahon's value this past offseason when, for the first time that I can remember, a sitting HC was basically told to sit in the corner and wait while his current employer actively and not all that discretely worked to replace him. Bur for McMahon that was his best option because he had no market that would pay him anything remotely close than what he would make being a fired LSU coach.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13314 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:22 am to
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Hell, the marketplace kind of showed McMahon's value this past offseason when, for the first time that I can remember, a sitting HC was basically told to sit in the corner and wait while his current employer actively and not all that discretely worked to replace him.


No, this is a Louisiana thing where the governor inserts himself into coaching situations after placing his friends in as president and other key positions. I doubt seriously that you would even know if it had happened elsewhere.

While MCmahon "sat quietly in the corner" I am sure he was counting the millions of dollars in buyout he would receive if terminated. He is likely just taking the year off to relax after inheriting a moribund program under the cloud of NCAA investigations and an empty roster, then having his teams gutted by devestating injuries.

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I don't think I would go that far. I wouldn't be surprised to see the general consensus be that his success was simply a byproduct of a great pre-NIL/transfer era Murray State program, not something he accomplished in large part on his own merit.


Only persons who want to demean him would think like this. It doesnt matter whatt the coaches before him accomplished he still had to recruit and coach his Murray teams and he did very well at that level. That is what an AD at a mid major would look at. No doubt a good agent wouid also discuss the hurdles that he dealt with at LSU with the NCAA investigation and the major injuries. Some of you look at this through your rnarrow lens to mock and demean the guy, but far less accomplished coaches have gotten hired even after having a non - successful stint at a unversity. In fact having teams play very competitive games against tournament teams even in a losing effort despite the smaller NIL budget and the major injuries may speak louder about his coaching than you think. Scoff if you will but that is more likely a consideration than the winning tradition he inheirted at Murray State .

I notice you didn't address my comments about the timeline in my earlier post. I assume you agreed, but would be interested in your view . While we may disagree I appreciate that you at least buttress your points and dont just throw out smarmy and pithy statements.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
9084 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:27 am to
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tigersbb


A McMahon fan first, an LSU basketball fan second
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13314 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:30 am to
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Circle K Beggar


Right on time, the stalker appears with another empty smart arse comment that doesn't address the topic so he and his circle jerk buddies kiving in theri echo chamber can nudge each other and snicker. What a douche world you guys exist in.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
9084 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 11:30 am to
You’ve polluted the whole thread. Your posts are unavoidable.

Funny how you go straight to name calling (your first and only instinct) and didn’t refute what I said. Very telling.

So anyway….do you have any insight or opinions on the LSU basketball recruits? I’d love to hear it.
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