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re: MBB Offseason '25 Transfer Portal Tracker
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:42 am to mcspufftiger7
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:42 am to mcspufftiger7
The 18-19 team was nearly as bad as this past team in terms of shooting threes. 32% 3 point percentage (18-19) compared to 31% (24-25). Yet, the 18-19 team led the SEC in total FG attempts per game compared to the 24-25 team who was 10th in that category. The 18-19 team was 2nd in FT attempts per game. The 24-25 team was dead last in FT attempts per game.
If opponents chose to "pack the lane" against a 31% three point shooting team (24-25 LSU) wouldn't your same logic apply in 18-19 for opponents facing a 32% 3 point shooting team? Or are you suggesting opponents didn't figure out how to defend bad 3 point shooting teams until just this past season? That 18-19 team made it a point of emphasis to get the ball on the rim. The entire offensive approach was structured to do just that because LSU felt they had an advantage on the offensive glass and FT shooting.
This past LSU team also had excellent offensive rebounders. Chest was 3rd in the SEC in offensive rebound % (behind Cardwell and Broome at Auburn). Collins was #12. Compare that to 18-19 where KBW was #1 and Ried was 13. Adjusting the offensive approach to get the ball to the rim often would have been a good approach with both Chest and Collins being very good offensive rebounders. Instead, LSU ran about two inefficient sets and continued to launch threes despite being a poor shooting team.
So again, good coaches adjust and adapt to the strength of their personnel. Bad coaches make excuses. Perhaps similar to this....
If opponents chose to "pack the lane" against a 31% three point shooting team (24-25 LSU) wouldn't your same logic apply in 18-19 for opponents facing a 32% 3 point shooting team? Or are you suggesting opponents didn't figure out how to defend bad 3 point shooting teams until just this past season? That 18-19 team made it a point of emphasis to get the ball on the rim. The entire offensive approach was structured to do just that because LSU felt they had an advantage on the offensive glass and FT shooting.
This past LSU team also had excellent offensive rebounders. Chest was 3rd in the SEC in offensive rebound % (behind Cardwell and Broome at Auburn). Collins was #12. Compare that to 18-19 where KBW was #1 and Ried was 13. Adjusting the offensive approach to get the ball to the rim often would have been a good approach with both Chest and Collins being very good offensive rebounders. Instead, LSU ran about two inefficient sets and continued to launch threes despite being a poor shooting team.
So again, good coaches adjust and adapt to the strength of their personnel. Bad coaches make excuses. Perhaps similar to this....
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Difficult to get to the rim when teams just pack the lane because you are a bad 3 pt shooting team and your bigs can’t shoot either. Reed was not a terrible 3 point shooter. He shot a good % and defenders went out to guard him which helped open the lane. No one guarded Collins or Chest outside the lane. That’s why losing Reed and Ward was so big
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:12 am to Alt26
So your comparing a team that had 5 players that played in the NBA to this team? Seriously? And you think the difference was coaching? LOL
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:32 am to mcspufftiger7
The difference between those 2 teams , even with the obvious way more talent, is those bigs could score multiple ways. Reid and Bass could score outside, post up and handle the ball. So defenders had to guard them away from the paint. Even Emmet had post up moves. And our guards could take their man off the dribble and were all big and physical except for Tremont but he could break down any defense and had range. Terrible comparison. We had 2 rebounders that had no offensive game although Collins started to show a mid range shot later in the season but they were both pushed around due to their thin frames. B Williams started to show some skills later also as he started to show a post up game and I expect bigger things from him next year but to compare those 2 teams is ridiculous. No one came out to guard them 12 feet and out.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:47 am to mcspufftiger7
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So your comparing a team that had 5 players that played in the NBA to this team? Seriously? And you think the difference was coaching? LOL
No, I'm comparing it to a team and coach who adapted the style of play that best suit that particular roster. Whether they had 5 players that would eventually play in the NBA or not, that roster, that season, was a poor 3 point shooting team. But rather than continue to shoot a significant number of 3's like the 24-25 poor 3 point shooting team, that team/coach adjusted to being one that placed a point of emphasis on getting the ball to the rim. Coaching is adjusting your approach to what your roster does best. That particular LSU team didn't shoot the 3 well. Not surprisingly, it was also the team that took the fewest 3 point attempts per game under Wade. The 20-21 was Wade's best 3 point shooting team. It was also a team that took the most 3 point attempts per game. In other words, they leaned into their strengths in each season.
Despite their weaknesses elsewhere, Chest and Collins were very good offensive rebounders. So instead of saying "Oh well, we lost Reed, there goes our inside scoring", how about put the guys you do have in a position to succeed. For Chest and Collins that was getting the ball on the rim and letting them attack the offensive glass. LSU didn't. They just continue to chunk late in the shot clock 3's
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:36 pm to tigersham
Confirmed contact with Stojakovic. Illinois hosting him on a visit tomorrow and sounds like they’re still in the driver seat.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:53 pm to Alt26
Chest and collins didn't have any offensive skills compared to the Bigs of 2018. Not even close. BMiller started to show signs of it and I think will even progress more next year with a true PG and Reed down low,. Bmiller, Vmiller and Collins did develop during the season although injury slowed Vmiller down but this mantra that MM can't develop players is BS. All 3 were better at the end of the year as was Givens. But when you have no scoring bigs and you don't shoot well from 3 its hard to win anything in this league. Rebounding is great but when you don't know what to do with it once you get it then not so impressive. 2018 team knew what to do with it.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 2:05 pm to tigersham
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Illinois hosting
This has been the rumored destination since he first hit the portal. It sounds like the only way he won't end up there is if they can't meet his NIL demands.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 2:08 pm to tigersham
Anything on the Kennard Davis visit?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 4:39 pm to mcspufftiger7
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Rebounding is great but when you don't know what to do with it once you get it then not so impressive.
Don't know what to do with it? You go back up and put it in the goal. It's not a terribly difficult concept. KBW had less of offensive skill than Collins or Chest. Reid, of course, had more. But after the FSU game he wasn't asked to be a 6'10 wing shooter. He was pushed down low to help carry the load on the offensive glass. In the first 6 games he averaged 4 three point attempts per game. In 18 games of SEC play he averaged less than two. However, his offensive rebounding significantly improved...as did LSU's offense as a whole because they chose to play to their strengths rather than continue to waste possessions by having below average 3 point shooters take FAR too many 3 point shots. Wade let Reid be the outside shooter he wanted to be for the first 6 games of the season. But once it became clear that wasn't going to be part of LSU's path to success the approach changed
But look, you may be right that despite the data and evidence provided very little of McMahon's dismal record can actually be attributed to poor coaching, as opposed to an unfathomable set of circumstances and "bad luck" no coach could ever overcome.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 4:52 pm to Alt26
Bro… 
Can you ever post something that isn’t 10+ lines?
I do it too, SOMETIMES. I get we have feelings but on this page alone…jesus, dude.
We are back to my point 2 weeks ago. 3 of the last 12 posts have been from a dude posting hemingway’s short stories
Can you ever post something that isn’t 10+ lines?
I do it too, SOMETIMES. I get we have feelings but on this page alone…jesus, dude.
We are back to my point 2 weeks ago. 3 of the last 12 posts have been from a dude posting hemingway’s short stories
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:39 pm to LSUButt
So we got 24 hours or so to close out this portal window or how does this work?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:47 pm to LSUButt
In fairness alt does use paragraphs judiciously, and is right way more than he's wrong, and by the way, he's COMPLETELY RIGHT about Wade maximizing his talent and 14-40 minimizing his talent.
That's severely contrasted by 14-40's biggest fan, mcpuffs.
That's severely contrasted by 14-40's biggest fan, mcpuffs.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:48 pm to Pnels08
quote:There are 24 hours for players to enter the portal, but we can still sign any of them.
So we got 24 hours or so to close out this portal window or how does this work?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:57 pm to LSUFanMizeWay
Haven’t heard anything. Staff keeping it quiet similar to all the other recruitments. The number for him apparently is $1 million.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:05 pm to tigersham
Also in other random news: Mwani Wilkinson has entered the portal again. Not sure where the eligibility will come from.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:13 pm to tigersham
Sorry for the triple post but another big name for LSU:
but another big name for LSU: Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:20 pm to tigersham
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Staff keeping it quiet similar to all the other recruitments.
aka “We know we’re out of the running. We just won’t say anything and hope the fans still left forget.”
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:28 pm to tigersham
quote:He may be trying for a redshirt for 22-23. He only played 12 games. That plus the Covid year would give him one year left. He played really well in the game I caught of him this past year.
Also in other random news: Mwani Wilkinson has entered the portal again. Not sure where the eligibility will come from.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:32 pm to Circle K Beggar
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aka “We know we’re out of the running. We just won’t say anything and hope the fans still left forget.”
No McMahon fan but credit to all the signings I haven’t seen leaked prior so I could see being in on anyone. My perception of concern is we’ve run out of money bc what looked to be grabbing some of the best talent available, which is how we stared, has stalled past 2-3 weeks. Hope they have a few more great signings on paper and I’ll hope for the best, but I’m not going to be critical they haven’t pulled some guys I’m excited to watch or perceive them to be out on anyone.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:51 pm to tigersham
40% 3 point shooter. Yes.
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