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LSU in the "diamond tier" of best coaching jobs - Glen West

Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:01 am
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9804 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:01 am
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Most would consider the place LSU is in right now as a football program to be its "Golden Era." When looking at the last 25 years of the heights this football team has proven it can reach, there really are very few comparable programs out there.

This week, the CBS Sports team broke down the tiers in which various head coaching jobs around the country are built towards long term success. It's an exercise that weighs recruiting, resources, talent pool, administrative edge and executable expectations. Each one of those categories was given a 1-5 rating for each program and the results were extremely favorable to the team in Baton Rouge.

The very top row was called the "diamond tier" and it consisted of five teams: Texas (4.8), LSU (4.8), Ohio State (4.6), Alabama (4.4) and Georgia (4.4).

"Surprised to see LSU near the top of the list? You shouldn't be. The past three coaches in Baton Rouge have each collected national titles and Brian Kelly may get that opportunity in 2025 -- or else. The money at LSU has put Kelly in a win-or-bust situation. The Tigers have the nation's No. 1 portal signing class, a deep coaching staff and no excuses should the team fall short. LSU is one of the few programs where you're fired if you don't sniff the national title early in your tenure."

The purple and gold being tied right at the tippy top of this with Texas certainly paints a different view than some may have on the outside looking in. While really coming into its own as a powerhouse in the sport over the last two decades, the program hasn't been able to escape that three, four or in rare cases, five loss seasons since the magical run in 2019.

That was six years ago now and LSU hasn't come particularly close to a playoff run since. But yet this job that Brian Kelly currently holds is set up long term to be one of the best in the whole sport. Why?

There are a couple of different factors at play, one being the resource department. The Tigers got the wakeup call last winter with some of the departures in the 2025 freshman class and immediately went to work. Kelly and Austin Thomas deserve a ton of credit for the work that was put in to get NIL into a place of long term sustainability and it's already seeing the results.

LSU signed the No. 1 transfer portal class this past offseason because of the increase in financial resources the program was able to attain. This 2026 class is also seeing the rewards of that work, with three five-star prospects committed and an overall class that's No. 2 in average player rating from top to bottom with a 93.60 grade.

The talent pool in Louisiana per capita is always among the very best in the country. While other states like Texas, Florida and California for example might have more talent, it's only because those states are much bigger than Louisiana. The Tigers have built a successful program over the last two decades by "pulling their base" in the state and it's resulted in three national championships, countless NFL superstars and they now appear to be set up for another great run, which leads us into our next topic of discussion.

The recruiting piece is what will put the purple and gold over the edge and why this job is so highly thought of on a national scale. That couldn't have been more evident than this start to July. LSU has landed a pair of five-star defensive linemen, one from Baton Rouge in Lamar Brown and the other Trenton Henderson out of Florida.

It makes for a class that's knocking on the door of a top-5 group with plenty of more work to be done and at least in recent weeks, was done without the entire recruiting staff infrastructure in place. That's all about to change now with Thomas filling three critical positions in personnel, scouting and recruiting departments that will elevate recruiting even more.

Kelvin Bolden, who worked with Thomas at Ole Miss where they helped build a No. 1 overall transfer portal class, was hired as Associate AD/Assistant General Manager. Then New Orleans native and former LSU staffer Jeff Martin was brought in as the Executive Director of Player Personnel. On Friday, highly regarded director of player personnel Sam Petitto was hired away from Ohio State to be Director of Scouting and Personnel Strategy after previously being Nick Saban's right hand man at Alabama for eight years.

All of those moves were made within the last three days and now gives LSU a structure to attack not only this 2026 class with aggression but also make headway in 2027 and beyond. There are recruits and commits at other schools out there all of these new front office hires will immediately start chipping away at over the next several months.

LSU has all of the makings structurally to make for a consistent winner and the Tigers are tied to Kelly for the foreseeable future to make good on all that is working in the program's favor.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9804 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:04 am to
Seems we're a blue-blood after all!
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:22 am to
That BK thing is the only downer thus far. If he doesn't make the playoffs this season, he'll never win anything at LSU.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9804 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:19 am to
CBK is a winner if you look over his career. Won at every level, low, then mid, then high. And he'll elevate to the highest level in the next few years.
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
2075 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:22 am to
No shite (to the article, not op.. appreciate posting)... anyone whos followed cfp last 25 years knows its bama, oh st, lsu, uga's period

We just won't ever be discussed so easily as a good team or program, as the texas, bama, notre dame, miami. You can tell how much media wants them to be good, vs our teams they mainly discuss the gaps.

And on the way down, I've never seen another program shite on as much as lsu gets piled on. Les, orgeron, honey badger, etc. I get some of that is Fandom thinking "media hates lsu" , but the bias is real towards certain programs for sure.

Cheers to the recognition
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:33 am to
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CBK is a winner if you look over his career.
I won't try and refute that. Many coaches have been winners in their career. Most never sniff a natty though.

Make no mistake. I want him to win. However, how could he ever have a defense at LSU of all places ranked in the 100's ? It's unfathomable to me he arrives and fires all the coaches then begs for them to return.
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3905 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:38 am to
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shite (to the article, not op.. appreciate posting)... anyone whos followed cfp last 25 years knows its bama, oh st, lsu, uga's period We just won't ever be discussed so easily as a good team or program, as the texas, bama, notre dame, miami. You can tell how much media wants them to be good, vs our teams they mainly discuss the gaps. And on the way down, I've never seen another program shite on as much as lsu gets piled on. Les, orgeron, honey badger, etc. I get some of that is Fandom thinking "media hates lsu" , but the bias is real towards certain programs for sure. Cheers to the recognition


Bingo. Nick Saban was “Nick Saban” until he left in their eyes

Same way they propped up Miles when they thought he was a strong candidate at Michigan.

The minute that didn’t happen, he was back to being a grass eating idiot.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29315 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Make no mistake. I want him to win. However, how could he ever have a defense at LSU of all places ranked in the 100's ?
Oh, you were talking total defense instead of scoring defense. I use scoring defense because, you know, scoring, but yes we were 108 in total defense which is insanely bad. HOWEVER, what I hate is people like you and Matt Mascona and others conviently lying about the worst defense NOT being 2020 LSU. See, while we talk shite about the 2023 defense, it was the 2020 defense that was the travesty.

2020 Total Defense 124 out of 127. Scoring defense 97th to 2023s 81st.

And I will never not be pissed at coach O for that season. LSU was literally the only 2019 playoff team that fell off a cliff the next year. Ohio St, Clemson, and Oklahoma finished 2, 3, and 6th respectively.

In short, Ed O had a defense ranked worse, AND he won a national championship at the same school, so you LITERALLY have a point of reference.

I will agree and disgree on what Kelly did when he got here. LSU was rotted from the core when he got here and being a program builder, thought he needed to pull it all up and build a foundation first. Him having immediate success here made it worse for him. Many of us didn't expect much year one. This forum in particular hoped for a 7-5 season after going 5-5 and 6-7 the previous 2 years.
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It's unfathomable to me he arrives and fires all the coaches then begs for them to return.
He later realizes that he needs to tune the LSU staff and culture to LSU/Louisiana. People can say what they want, but a man with his career success humbling himself like Kelly has done in his damn 60s is just completely unheard of in any field. People are usually stuck in their ways. Kelly has been "like water", instead of rigid like stone. Every inch of the coaching staff is now at an elite level. The recruiting group might be the best in the business now.

Also "begging" to return is so ridiculously stupid to say and it proves you actually do have something against him. The man, being a man, realized his mistakes and humbled himself like i said. The man has donated what, 2 million now to LSU? He wants this to work not just for his legacy, but for LSU itself. HE'S ALREADY PAID. If they fire him, he's owed a TON. He wants to make LSU a championship caliber PROGRAM not have a random 2019 season. None of you have patience for any damn thing.

It took Kirby Smart 6 years at UGA before he won it all. When he got there UGA had a loaded group and came off back to back 10-3 seasons. He also didn't have to deal with the transfer portal and NIL. As a matter of fact, not a damn coach that has won a national championship started off their current program in the NIL and transfer portal era. Not one. Notre Dame is the only program that has made the NCG with a coach starting in the program during the NIL and transfer portal era. However THAT guy got an undefeated team handed to him. At team with multiple top 10 classes and 5 straight double digit winning seasons. A team that had a 44-6 record over the prior 4 years before he got there (54-9 over 5 years).

I do think we have the squad to go all the way. However going all the way once will not be the end like Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Ed O did. The program is set up to go strong year after year.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:32 pm to
O was never long for LSU. He isn't all that competent. History shows he's a very short term guy who excels as an interim. 2019 was O getting out of the way and letting the coaches do their thing. Natty happens then the real O appears. He wanted to change everything. Aranda deserves more props for the 19 season than he gets. O and Aranda aren't buddies.

As for BK. I don't like the guy. I wanted a younger hire. However, I also said I want him to win. I don't want LSU to lose so all the people who don't like him can pop up and say I told you so. That's dumb. The 10 year contract wasn't deserved. Hiring House was so bad on so many levels.

I do think the d will be dominant this season. BK has been given all the resources. Senior qb. He needs to win a playoff game this season. If he doesn't then the season will be a failure.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:19 pm to
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I wanted a younger hire


Who was younger and better that was coming? Napier? Aranda?
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Who was younger and better that was coming? Napier? Aranda?
For younger a younger guy would have to be offered. Nope. The AD offered Jimbo and Kelly. There were guys available that season. Lashlee. Cristobal. Joey McGuire. However, Woodward doesn't look at younger guys and he also offers absurd contracts.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:04 pm to
You wanted Aranda & Napier
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 4:58 pm to
It's too early to be this stupid.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
4443 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 5:20 pm to
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You wanted Aranda & Napier


He did, along with lots of others. Be careful what you wish for, we got lucky with BK he's a great coach and will win a title here.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 6:57 pm to
Aranda was just hired by Baylor he wasn't leaving. He fits the younger style coach I would have preferred for Woodward to at least look at.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 6:58 pm to
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and will win a title here
That's the hope. Anyone who wants to see him fail so they can jump on their soapbox needs to pick another team.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
26536 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:27 am to
I found the rest of the list. I think I would put A&M in the silver tier.

Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9804 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:05 am to
Aranda (I've met him a few) is a really good guy, but he'll never be a great head coach. Baylor is prob the perfect spot for him as their expectations are modest.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8631 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 5:18 pm to
I agree with you. Still, I would have preferred a younger coach than BK. We'll see what he can do this year. He said this is his most talented roster.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38718 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:21 am to
We needed a steady hand to get the program back on track. I do believe BK has gotten that done but now it is time for him to win
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