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re: LSU has work to do with Tyrion Davis
Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:54 pm to LSU2THEMAX
Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:54 pm to LSU2THEMAX
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I love Alabama," said Davis
I do not understand how kids growing up in BR and committed to LSU could love Alabama. Boggles my mind.
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:54 pm to Tiger Ree
You keep calling people "rantards" that have been posting on this site for awhile now, fool, you may want to check things out first before you insert foot in mouth like you have proven you can do.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:01 pm to Goldrush25
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The smart thing to do would've been to prepare for the possibility that Surtain wouldn't sign when they were unable to secure his commitment at the early signing period
Sure man, sure. Sorry Pat you didn't sign early so were going with this other guy that nobody ever heard of until we offered him.
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Maybe you don't have to take a lower rated recruit like Provens
LSU's RB depth is worse than CB depth. But yeah let's not take a RB's signature.
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Taking two CBs and missing out on Provens is a better situation than what ended up happening.
Well, since they didn't take two CB's and were able to move a 5-star CB back to his natural position your made up scenario is not the better situation.
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Is it impossible for you to admit that perhaps they could've handled this entire situation better? Or are you that dishonest?
If he had 20/20 hindsight I'm sure he would have done differently. He would have take Goodrich commit on Sunday if he knew then what he knows now.
It's easy to knock people for actions after you know what happened. Was anybody bitching about missing out on Goodrich before signing day? No, because just like Eaux they though they were getting Surtain.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:07 pm to The Pirate King
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I do not understand how kids growing up in BR and committed to LSU could love Alabama. Boggles my mind.
He is going to take a visit to Alabama. What do you want him to say?
If I was going to visit UF I would say I love them.
Clemson - love them.
Hawaii - love them.
USC - love them.
I would love every place I was going to visit until after I had visited. To get love you got to give love.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:09 pm to Tiger Ree
Every recruit should do his due diligence in choosing a school where he will be at for 3 or 4 years. But for every Hootie Jones there seems to be a Jamal Adams. I'm sure the Texas schools didn't want to see Adams at LSU. But O has to really have a great great class this year... Also, O said he goes by his evaluations. It will be interesting to see how his evaluated 2018 plays out
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:21 pm to Tiger Ree
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Sure man, sure. Sorry Pat you didn't sign early so were going with this other guy that nobody ever heard of until we offered him.
Yeah, what's wrong with that?
That doesn't mean that Surtain's not still a take, it just means we're covering our own arse. I can't imagine why anyone thinking reasonably would have a problem with this approach.
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LSU's RB depth is worse than CB depth. But yeah let's not take a RB's signature.
Much, much easier to find a serviceable RB than CB.
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Well, since they didn't take two CB's and were able to move a 5-star CB back to his natural position your made up scenario is not the better situation.
Under my scenario we sign Goodrich and still have Joseph at S.
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It's easy to knock people for actions after you know what happened. Was anybody bitching about missing out on Goodrich before signing day?
How could we bitch about something that hadn't happened yet?
He took a risk and it blew up in his face. He deserves criticism for that just like any other coach. I don't know why you insist that he get special treatment or consideration because an 18 year old left him out to dry. He's running a business essentially, he has to perform better risk assessments. It's his job to cover LSU's rear end on these types of matters and he failed to do so.
I don't even know why you're pushing back still. All I'm saying is what Orgeron's already admitted to, that he should've been more selective during the early signing period. So you're disagreeing with him just because I'm saying it as well. You can't help yourself I guess.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:25 pm to logansrun
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Also, O said he goes by his evaluations. It will be interesting to see how his evaluated 2018 plays out
Well a 3-star he evaluated and signed was just named the best at his position for the Florida 6A first team all-state selections.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/lsu-tight-end--zach-sheffer-named-1st-team-all-state-6a-in-florida/75561556/
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:33 pm to Goldrush25
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He took a risk and it blew up in his face. He deserves criticism for that just like any other coach
The other option at the time was to take the Goodrich commitment on Sunday. Then if Surtain and Foster had signed to tell him sorry to let you know on signing day but you will have to find another team.
I have no criticism for him being honest up front to Goodrich. It cost him in the end but it was the right thing to do.
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you insist that he get special treatment or consideration because an 18 year old left him out to dry.
Where have I said anyone deserves special treatment? But an 18 year old leaving someone out to dry is not a punishable offense to me especially when it is the night before signing day.
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It's his job to cover LSU's rear end on these types of matters and he failed to do so.
He did cover LSU's rear. He moved a 5-star CB back to his natural position of CB. LSU has a lot of safeties. It was a good move and will help LSU in the short and long term.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:40 pm to The Pirate King
quote:Might be an indicator we've got some major work to do on our brand.
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I love Alabama," said Davis
I do not understand how kids growing up in BR and committed to LSU could love Alabama. Boggles my mind.
This can be worked in the reverse: even if Bama won't acknowledge it, treat them more like a rivalry, at least in press. If you can't put more shine on your brand than they have naturally, then create some hate.
Worked for TAMU vs. UT. And worth noting, UT acted like they were above it all, and it bit them. At least for a little while.
But my first thought was to remember NOT to fall into the mental trap of assuming just because someone loves Bama, doesn't mean they hate us. They might love us more.
But what I'm proposing is doing our best to create a 'brand' where loving both is impossible, or at least difficult.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:29 pm to The Pirate King
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I do not understand how kids growing up in BR and committed to LSU could love Alabama. Boggles my mind.
I'd guess it's no different than kids in Chicago or New York being Golden State Warrior fans or New England Patriot fans.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:35 pm to Tiger Ree
Why not just tell Surtain on Sunday to commit or we are taking Goodrich as he is committing that night?
Naw baw, Coach got played like a smurf.
Naw baw, Coach got played like a smurf.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:48 pm to public_enemy
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You do realize that this kid is a recruit?
Yes, it's why I said "If I were"
Screw Bama
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:19 pm to reo45
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Why not just tell Surtain on Sunday to commit or we are taking Goodrich as he is committing that night?
Also reasonable.
Guy says he's been LSU for two years and he can't give you a commitment the Sunday before NSD? O got played like a fiddle.
O put all of his eggs in one basket, he shoulders all of the blame when we don't get the guy. Can't blame it on the Surtains, they demonstrated their uncertainty with their actions (or inaction).
I bet they actually wanted O to move on so they'd say they didn't have a choice but to sign with Bama.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 2/24/18 at 8:06 am to reo45
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Why not just tell Surtain on Sunday to commit or we are taking Goodrich as he is committing that night?
Naw baw, Coach got played like a smurf.
Yeah, teams give 5-star recruits ultimatums all the time. Even if he was convinced he was coming to LSU something like that could change that line of thinking.
"Hey Pat we have a 4-star we wouldn't mind having, commit now or you will have to find another school".
What if he had agreed and committed to LSU on Sunday? Which could have happened and no one on this board would have known. He could have just as easily still called Coach Eaux on Tuesday night at 11:00 and said he had changed his mind.
LSU lost one player who was not even committed. It's not the end of the world.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 2:56 pm to Tiger Ree
I think of the three top Louisiana recruits, Davis, Emery and Cain, Davis is the surest thing. But of course, nothing in recruiting is ever set in stone. We really need 2 of these 3. At least 2...
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 10:58 am to Tiger Ree
You really should ask for a raise, Derek, with all the time you're putting in here doing damage control for Coach O.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:52 am to TigersFan64
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You really should ask for a raise, Derek, with all the time you're putting in here doing damage control for Coach O.
Thanks Osama !!!
It's not a lot of work, pretty much just common sense. It's pretty easy when a person's reality is not blinded by unjustified hatred.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:13 pm to LSU2THEMAX
Here is what LSU should do. Simply go about business as if he is not committed because we simply cannot be loyal until the kid is loyal. Period.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 4:27 pm to Tiger Ree
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moving Kelvin Joseph who was a 5-star cornerback before moving to safety back to cornerback
Need-based move. Joseph's more natural position is safety.
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LSU still got one cornerback and that is all they would have taken anyway
And that's due to incompetence. Any casual fan knew O should have been going after more than ONE cornerback. Just gross incompetence that he couldn't at least sign Goodrich, who was champing at the bit for an LSU offer early on.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 4:38 pm to TigersFan64
Davis is 100% solid
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