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re: LSU Baseball 2024 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread OLD THREAD

Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by banthony1
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:26 pm to
I’ll trust the coach that has won everywhere he has been and just won a natty over kids that get cycled every 3-4 years
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Are you mad because I am right or mad because you were wrong?


Quote where I'm wrong.

But to answer your actual question, which you never seem to fricking do when I ask you one, I'm not mad about anything.

Telling you to go frick yourself doesn't mean I'm mad. It just means I think you should go frick yourself.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2757 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:31 pm to
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I am around a bunch of these kids and I listen to them talk. CJJ needs to do some soul searching and start making amends. He has create mess!


I’d be curious of how many of these kids were starters. It’s pretty clear that last years players loved Jay. Jay goes out of his way to compliment players every chance he gets in a way I’ve never seen from a head coach in any sport.

I don’t doubt some players are upset, especially after coming off of last years high. Most of these kids were one of the best in their entire state and they get shell shocked at lsu. It had to be tough to sit on the bench and watch us have a tough year. To me, that’s more of a maturity problem than a development problem though. Jay literally sacrifices his whole life for these kids so I’m sure he demands a lot from them. I won’t blame kids for leaving who don’t meat his standards but I’m also very happy that Jay is willing to replace them with guys who will.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Wait! Are you mad because I am right or mad because you were wrong? I am around a bunch of these kids and I listen to them talk. CJJ needs to do some soul searching and start making amends. He has create mess!


frick out of here. “soul searching”? What in the frick are you talking about? If some kids are upset because they don’t have a guaranteed spot on the field next year and want to transfer then so be it. It’s the world of college athletics we live in. For example I’m sure Jay told Kling and Neal both after the season that nothing was guaranteed. They chose the easy route and hit the portal. LSU and Jay Johnson will be just fine without them.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
21521 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:32 pm to
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So Brady Neal or Paxton Kling want more money, but are not even locked into starting positions?



Not to mention still hasn't proven he can stay healthy for an entire year.
Posted by TigerHeart22
Member since Jun 2022
206 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:40 pm to
Kling and Neal were both offered money to stay but chose to leave anyway. If you think transferring and leaving is the easy route, then you are crazy!
Posted by talmaniandevil_25
Member since Jan 2020
3617 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:42 pm to
Dude no one cares that you MAY know someone on the team. I’m sure they were offered money to stay, but neither improved here. It’s fine if they want to move on, but acting like Jay isn’t a players coach is hilarious.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
1250 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:42 pm to
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I won’t blame kids for leaving who don’t meat his standards but I’m also very happy that Jay is willing to replace them with guys who will.
Jay admitted that this whole NIL and Transfer Portal thing has become a different animal than he imagined and he himself needed to adjust.

He also mentioned that you have to take the emotion out of it and do what’s best for LSU, that has to be incredibly difficult.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80267 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:43 pm to
This one hurts, I liked neals potential. But honestly, it may not workout if he doesnt have enough confidence in himself to win this job
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
21521 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:45 pm to
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Kling and Neal were both offered money to stay but chose to leave anyway.


Was it as much as they thought they were worth though?
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
7728 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Kling and Neal were both offered money to stay but chose to leave anyway. If you think transferring and leaving is the easy route, then you are crazy!

Both are replaceable.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73800 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:47 pm to
Last year, Tennessee offered Chase Burns money to stay, even offered him a weekend rotation spot.

They were still not upset about not dealing with him in the locker room anymore.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2757 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:47 pm to
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but acting like Jay isn’t a players coach is hilarious.


Exactly. I’m not doubting that this dude actually has a source on the team. We just need to understand the intel he is getting is clearly biased.
The far safer (and supported) bet is that this is coming from a couple players on the team with immature attitudes. I’m
Not sure what magical developmental coaching guys like Kling and Neal will find elsewhere when whatever Jay is doing has clearly worked for numerous guys at Arizona and LSU.
Posted by Poptart_Huran
Member since Nov 2023
18 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:50 pm to
The timing of this one specifically is very strange given exit meetings happened last week, and Jay just mentioned Neal as a guy he was excited to have next year. He seemed confident he would return- plus our portal activity doesn't indicate LSU planned at all for a Neal exit either. Even if he's selling Jones as a catcher you'd think we'd be connected to more guys just in case. Jay might as well have been handing Neal the starting job. All this to say best of luck to Neal but sounds like he's looking for something Jay can't compromise the team for. I don't blame guys for looking out for themselves but Jay is here to run a program and help build a team. Best of luck to Neal and all these other guys who helped LSU win a championship, but if a guy isn't "happy" or feel "taken care of" when Jay has bent over backwards to get them involved then it's probably for the best they look elsewhere anyways.
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
3021 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:53 pm to
The timing is a little off, but I'm wondering if this means Arambide has told CJJ something?
Posted by banthony1
Member since Jan 2012
133 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:54 pm to
this is why this whole thing doesn’t jive with me..I would say the only real four “losses” at least from a perceptive standpoint is Neal Kling Moffett and Johnson…Jay basically gave Kling and Neal EVERY opportunity to start. Neal literally was starting as a true freshman last year. They WANTED Moffett to be that guy and gave him chance after chance after chance and at the end of the day he couldn’t stop walking people. Johnson just isn’t there yet to be a contributor
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19444 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:54 pm to
As Project said...Neal is that one guy he gave way more opportunities that warranted by play, if Neal isn't confident he can start next year over Priester then good luck to him. It's also why Jay can't just sit back and pay Neal or Kling...
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
7728 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:55 pm to
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The timing of this one specifically is very strange given exit meetings happened last week, and Jay just mentioned Neal as a guy he was excited to have next year.

This is another thing I don’t understand…the Neal and Cam Johnson portal rumors popped up immediately after the last game vs UNC and were reported by both Moscona and Glen West. Was Neal going around telling people he was going to transfer?
Posted by TigerHeart22
Member since Jun 2022
206 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:01 pm to
I would think he is spending time at home deciding what his best route is. Most of these kids already went back home.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6444 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:02 pm to
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He said he is posting it on his socials at 2 pm central.


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