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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:17 pm to
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He had a 6.37 ERA


He was given I know 4 runs early in the year that weren’t his fault. Frey missed a fly ball in RF that was ruled a hit and Braswell booted a ball and then botched DP. I’m not doing the math but he had some bad luck with defense.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:19 pm to
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From memory we carried 21 pitchers, 19 if you don’t count Shores and Noot. We used 14 regularly.

We can afford to have a couple of projects in the pen who have the potential to be game changers if they get right. Last year we had a few too many.


Good post to put it in perspective. It would be great to land another Holman/Jump combo, but that’s not realistic this season. We are replacing a ton of innings, and taking a flyer on a guy who has that much experience and talent isn’t a bad thing.

He’s not coming here to be our Friday not ace. If he can throw enough strikes to eat up innings, it’s a win.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:24 pm to
Why is Mayers ranked so high if he has control issues?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:25 pm to
High usage and high strike out numbers
Posted by AscensionTiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jun 2004
4179 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:31 pm to
Mayers is that Louisiana kid, die hard LSU kid that you like on the team. Every championship team has had them. Kid has big time potential!

And yes look at my my handle, I’m biased lol
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:31 pm to
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He was given I know 4 runs early in the year that weren’t his fault. Frey missed a fly ball in RF that was ruled a hit and Braswell booted a ball and then botched DP. I’m not doing the math but he had some bad luck with defense.


He had some meltdowns late too… he didn’t throw that many innings, so giving up any runs will have a big impact to your number. Herring started the year out with a high ERA, then dominated the rest of the season to end up with elite numbers. Little was still a ways away from being really reliable
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10321 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:35 pm to
211 k’s in 146 innings.

1.44 K/inning
.91 BB/inning

BA against .170
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:57 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75465 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:56 pm to
he regressed this year but looked super promising in 2023. Walks were an issue but less so that thisnyear. .76 per inning vs about.

Pick him up and see if you can figure out if you can get the walls issue fixed.

Posted by WJP23
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:22 pm to
I’m not sure if this comp is close in terms of stuff, but look at Chris Cortez. I believe we tried to bring him in last year - he was going to follow Yeskie, but I believe he entered the portal a day after it closed.

He walked 40 in 41.1 innings in 2023 with a 7.34 ERA

This year he is one of the better arms in the country out of the pen with 29 walks in 57 innings and 89 strikeouts. 2.83 ERA.

I’m not sure what the difference was with him from one year to the next in terms of the tweaks he made, but Mayers has that type of potential.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75465 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:26 pm to
as a freshmen he threw 5.2 against alabama and gave up 2 runs had 8 Ks and 3 BB.

I mean… i’d take that on sunday. how do we get him to the that guys regularly is a question for Yeskie
Posted by subidc
CharlestonSC
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:40 pm to
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This year he is one of the better arms in the country out of the pen with 29 walks in 57 innings and 89 strikeouts. 2.83 ERA.



Might be that new pitching coach they have. over there, he is impressive.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75465 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:42 pm to
a few guys progresses

they also added a few guys and their best starter is a guy who didn’t pitch last year.

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80191 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:48 pm to
Yeah, a&m may have one of the best pitching coaches in the country, i cant believe he hasnt gotten a head job yet, but i guess that could be coming any day now
Posted by Datsmoneydude
Member since Jun 2021
2497 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:04 pm to
Yeskie built a good staff there before he left for sure
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
9780 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:11 pm to
DP
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
9780 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:14 pm to
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It’s hard to pitch @ lsu & get the opportunities needed to get your issues corrected

Not really. If you have enough upside you are pretty much guaranteed to pitch in one game per week until about mid April, probably all the way until mid May if we're having a really good season. I don't mind taking a flier on a guy like that. We arent gonna be depending on him to carry the team but those are the kind of players that go a long way towards heating up at the right time.

Also you mentioned a bunch of guys that LSU couldn't fix but I'd argue that Moffett and Little made huge strides at LSU. Just last year LSU was able to fix Cooper and Floyd, granted with a different pitching coach
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

. Just last year LSU was able to fix Cooper and Floyd, granted with a different pitching coach


Neither needed fixing & both have numbers that are rather linear over 3 seasons


quote:

I'd argue that Moffett and Little made huge strides at LSU.


Little pitched well for about 3 weeks after being here for two seasons.

Moffett did not contribute in 2 seasons & is transferring now due to that. Which totally negates your 1st point. He simply did not get to pitch enough
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
9780 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:39 pm to
Cooper changed his arm slot IIRC. Floyd looked awful trying to throw anything other than his FB for a very long time. Both got "fixed." Saw Coopers numbers in the minors posted here the other day and they were still pretty good.
The Little argument has already been hashed out in this thread. He appeared to turn a corner with his new cutter but yes it was too short lived to know for certain.

Moffett was on the mound vs UNC in a regional. His FR year he had 1 appearance. He was improving without a doubt.

Ive only seen this guy pitch one time so im not gonna argue if he's fixable in 1 season or not, just saying I don't mind taking the flier and he will get opportunities to carve out a role if the upside is really there
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:41 pm
Posted by nps6724
Member since Mar 2019
320 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:42 pm to
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Also you mentioned a bunch of guys that LSU couldn't fix but I'd argue that Moffett and Little made huge strides at LSU. Just last year LSU was able to fix Cooper and Floyd, granted with a different pitching coach


I feel like there are a lot of liberties taken with some guys' improvements. Neither Floyd's nor Cooper's season-long numbers showed significant improvement from 2022 to 2023. Same for Little 2023 to 2024. Moffett only pitched in 7 SEC/postseason games and allowed runs in 4 of them.

All four guys had some fantastic outings at times (some of them in the biggest moments, which made them memorable) but they should not be held up as examples of the kind of improvement we want to see.

Herring is pretty much the only pitcher from the past 3 seasons that showed the type of growth you want to see as far as year-to-year development goes.
(I'm not including Skenes since he only pitched at LSU one season and he's such an unfair example in the first place)
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:51 pm to
Lil bit of straw man going on here but I’m not gonna derail this threat

This Mayer kid prob most comparable to Moffett. Except he majorly regressed in Y2 instead of showing improvement.

This isn’t Riley copper or ty Floyd ,
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