re: Leigh had actually already signed with Clemson back in mid-December

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Then the coaches knew already. The player is obligated to inform coaches recruiting him that he signed already or it's a violation. I guarantee you Clemson isn't going to risk a violation just so some kid can keep his signing under wraps for a few weeks.

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This is not true in the slightest. Bama did it to us with Womack a few years ago and we got in trouble after it came out that he already signed. It's already been disclosed that recruits and coaches didn't know. He didn't even tell Caleb Williams, who is supposed to be one of his closest friends.

Unless the other coaches were properly informed, this is trash-human behavior.

These are grown men working a tough job, with families. Stringing them along falsely is wrong. (I don’t care about fans)

I do believe LSU knew, however, but I don’t know if they were told directly.

The NCAA should actually outlaw this, because any coach that continued to contact Leigh was committing recruiting violations.

That's some snake shite

Fock him. Douche bag move

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This is not true in the slightest. Bama did it to us with Womack a few years ago and we got in trouble after it came out that he already signed. It's already been disclosed that recruits and coaches didn't know.

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That’s not what happened with Womack. He signed a financial aid agreement with LSU in July and planned to enroll early, which meant LSU could have unlimited contact with him. But then he decided to stay in HS another semester, decommitted, and signed with Bama on NSD (in February).

I’m not sure when he actually committed to Bama, but he didn’t sign until national signing day. There was no early signing period yet, which is why LSU only had a financial aid agreement. So LSU didn’t get penalized for contacting a recruit that was already signed to another school - they got penalized for having unlimited contact with a recruit who didn’t ultimately enroll at LSU. There’s a difference.

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The NCAA should actually outlaw this, because any coach that continued to contact Leigh was committing recruiting violations.

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My understanding is that coaches can verify with the NCAA whether a recruit has signed anywhere. I would assume this is common practice as Leigh wouldn’t be the first player to sign silently.

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My understanding is that coaches can verify with the NCAA whether a recruit has signed anywhere. I would assume this is common practice as Leigh wouldn’t be the first player to sign silently.

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There is zero chance the coaches didn't know he had signed.

Things are different nowadays, the parents are in on it. My parents would have never allowed me to do anything like that and if I did I would have probably been disowned for shaming the family. The younger generation just plays by new rules which is there aren’t any rules. Your social standing is now how popular you are on social media. I was in college way back when you still had to have a .edu email account to have a Facebook.

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My understanding is that coaches can verify with the NCAA whether a recruit has signed anywhere. I would assume this is common practice as Leigh wouldn’t be the first player to sign silently.

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You can verify a LOI from the NLI. It has to be turned into the conference within 24 hrs. of signing. It must be accompanied by a financial aid agreement.

However, you do not HAVE to sign a LOI. You can sign financial aid papers (if you want a scholarship) and then enroll. Until enrolled, you are still a recruit. Thus Clemson could not mention him by name (on open channels that is) and is not required to disclose anything.

Additionally, since not enrolled yet and still a recruit LSU or any school was not in contact rule violation. You can't contact players.

The Womack situation is a different set of rules. Bama tried to bait us into the same thing with Hootie actually but we didn't take the bait.

- You can sign multiple FA papers with different schools. What matters is which one you enroll in.

- Under recruiting rules if a recruit signs FA papers then you can initiate contact during no-contact periods (just not do in-homes or evaluations at HS).

- So, in the case of Womack (or Hootie) who had FA papers signed with both LSU and Bama, they decommitted during a dead period. Meaning either school could call him.

- BUT, that exception has a quirk. If the player does not enroll in your school and you made contact under the FA papers signed exception, it is retroactively a violation.

In the case of Hootie when he de-committed during a dead period he "put out the word", through message boards such as this and a helping hand from 247, that he wanted LSU to contact him now that he had decommitted. If LSU had, he enrolls at Bama and LSU gets whacked.

In the case of Womack LSU took the chance because 247 was putting out the idea that he was decommitting to go to Ole Miss. So our staff thought that since Bama wasn't involved it was safe. But in the end that Ole Miss stuff was misdirection on behalf of Bama to sucker us. It was Bama all along with some "recruiting media" help.

So unless Leigh enrolls, which is verifiable with the NCAA (or ACC), we can still contact him. IF he signs a LOI in the next window before enrolling, verifiable with the NLI, we can't.