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Josh Pate’s broadcast tonight all about A&M without saying it (NIL broken promises)

Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:47 pm
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:47 pm
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Says he’s been talking to coaches around the league and the biggest issue with NIL is certain schools promising things they can’t honor. Says some programs are promising things not rooted in reality which is causing recruits to commit without any emotional connection to the program.

He says “the quickest way to fracture locker room is with a few kids being promised a lot of money and them not getting it.” He goes on to say it’s already happening and word is already getting out among future signing classes. “It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.”

“There will be some high profile examples—it won’t take long for this to leak out. I’m telling you it’s coming in the next year or two—…of kids who get burned... That’s not going to go over well. …and when that happens they’ll leave and they’ll talk. And some of them are already doing it.”
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:52 pm to
Thought it was USC.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:56 pm to
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Thought it was USC.


Could be a little, but A&M—who finished with the best recruiting class in history last year—currently still sits at 60. USC is at 17 right now. Also let’s not forget the Aggie coach Twitter meltdown last week.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:59 pm to
I was saying that based on this tweet.

I get your point about atm but seems like usc might be the first to be exposed.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65994 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:08 am to
I hope they all transfer.
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:57 am to
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I hope they all transfer.


If this happens, lsu getting at least denver Harris and Jacoby matthews (I can dream right)
Posted by GEAUX5
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:45 am to
I’d rather them not come here. They made their choice. They need to face the consequences.

We need people who WANT to be at LSU.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:48 am to
They’re 17 year olds with family and agents in their ears. I’ll give them a pass.
Posted by luismlg
Member since Mar 2010
1430 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:21 am to
When I started to hear Pate, 8&4 is who first came to mind, but I’m pretty sure it isn't them.

Josh clearly said (and repeated it multiple times) he was talking about schools that didn’t have a good NIL plan during the last cycle and hence they started making empty promises to not get left behind. 8&4 was ready for NIL out the gate and they have the money.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:24 am to
If they leave ATM and want to transfer to LSU, doesn't that mean they want to be at LSU?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41932 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:15 am to
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They’re 17 year olds with family and agents in their ears. I’ll give them a pass.



They chose $ over any "connection" to a school.

Why would that mindset change if they leave?
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 8:33 am
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:29 am to
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I’d rather them not come here. They made their choice. They need to face the consequences. We need people who WANT to be at LSU.


Dumb

Reminds of all the post not wanting a QB transfer from OSU Bc LSU had a full QB room of players that WANTED to be at LSU.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6975 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:30 am to
And the shitshow begins...
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2469 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:35 am to
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Also let’s not forget the Aggie coach Twitter meltdown last week.


What happened here?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61288 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:37 am to
I'd be shocked if it was A&M, or any big schools for that matter. They have the money, but if they're promising on things they can't deliver because they didn't put the work in ahead of time, thats pretty bad.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38235 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:40 am to
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What happened here?


LINK

Antonio Cromartie on Twitter:

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If you don’t want to be around the best and compete every single day. I don’t want you. Everything you get you have to Earn. Don’t want any any entitled as kids playing for me. I don’t give a frick. We are going to work and compete. No fricking handouts…come get how you live JIT.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:43 am to
Thanks for posting. That was a good listen.

Seems like there were a few highly ranked recruits that did not read the NIL contract fine print and were verbally overpromised. Hopefully going forward highly ranked recruits' handlers and/or parents will get smarter at reading contracts.

Also in Pate's podcast, it sounded like 247 is doing a rankings update today. That's going to be interesting.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:48 am to
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Antonio Cromartie on Twitter:



That tweet...maybe the locker room is not so copesetic at 8&4.
Posted by RagingCajun3195
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:49 am to
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I’d rather them not come here. They made their choice. They need to face the consequences. We need people who WANT to be at LSU.


I see your point and would typically agree, but it could be really useful to have a former A&M player from last years cycle that is the host for a future recruit during his OV. We can have him host a player that is entertaining A&M, and he can negative recruit them for us talking about the BS, toxic locker room and broken promises. It’s a dirty business.
Posted by floyd13
New Orleans Uptown
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:50 am to
No it's not
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