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re: Jacoby Mathews and his father were asked if any NIL deals were involved in his decision

Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
12723 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:03 pm to
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The boot need a hero, I can't turn em down #geauxtigers

And we got a hero. His name is Harold Perkins.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19757 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:10 pm to
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some thoughts...
NIL eligibility does not begin until your second year in a program.
NIL eligibility paused on year one post-transfer.
NIL violations in these years will result in a recruiting violation.



I think your first two ideas would be ruled unconstitutional.
Posted by Jdixon
Member since Aug 2014
3099 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:19 pm to
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NIL can't be used for recruiting, we all know it is, so they can't say yes or it's a NCAA violation.


NIL wasn’t supposed to be used like they did at A&M and other places.

Jimbo told the world how its just pay for play and now that he clearly used it to buy the players and any praised him as just being honest.

Now he’s calling out specifically Saban and others in weird angry tirades because he knows he manipulated the NIL process to a point never done to buy the best recruiting class in the history of recruiting.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:48 pm to
ROFLMAO…..
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7484 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 2:03 pm to
That's Saban 'trick'.
He knows nothing ever
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21433 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 2:03 pm to
per the regulations, such as they are anyway, an athlete has to be enrolled in school and on campus before any nil funds can be dispersed. sooooo....they are dancing all around the "truth". At THIS point in time, they have not received any nil funds.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
3205 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Someone like Mathews says something like this then by summer his entire family will have luxury item shite. Watch.


How is that a violation?
By then he will be a student and be receiving his NIL money.

That's not illegal.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
3205 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Before NIL, did LSU EVER lose a Louisiana kid we really wanted to A&M?


Yes, Speedy Noil
Yes, Edgerrin Cooper
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4409 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 3:16 pm to
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So he’s a liar and a worm


Look we all know what went down but do you really think he’s going to admit to what would be a known recruiting violation???
Posted by El_chantajista
Lafayette Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
826 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 3:33 pm to
Did you see the look on perkins mother when he didn’t pick texas a&m she over LSU
Posted by tigahdor
Member since Feb 2022
58 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 3:46 pm to
I'm willing to bet a lot of the money from ATM is never filed on record with the NCAA as "NIL". It's just bags of cash.

They may have some promises to deliver ongoing NIL deals, but people gotta stop pretending like this is all opened up by NIL. They're also just flat-out playing the bag game at record levels.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:02 pm to
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No. LSU bid against A&M for his services. All three parties were breaking the rules. He was going to lie no matter who he signed with, otherwise he would be admitting to a violation. Harold Perkins was bought as well. Ask him if NIL was involved; he will say, “No.”


Too much common sense right here for the emotional idiots in here to comprehend.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:12 pm to
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Did you see the look on perkins mother when he didn’t pick texas a&m she over LSU


Yep. She smiled and looked proud of her son then idiots on here accused her of being pissed her son didn’t take Aggies money, like LSU ain’t paying him.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:14 pm to
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They're also just flat-out playing the bag game at record levels


Doing the same as everyone else, just better and with more money.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86993 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Doing the same as everyone else, just better and with more money


Actually it’s quite different. When the USSC passed NIL states also adopted regulation of what would be considered NIL. Save Texas. They refused to adopt it. Alabama is now removing the agreement, and other states will follow. Louisiana and Mississippi will probably last to make the move in the South.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31015 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:15 pm to
I hope Leah never played "just the tip" with her boyfriends back in high school.

Naivete leads to baby bumps.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6738 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:25 pm to
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NIL eligibility does not begin until your second year in a program. NIL eligibility paused on year one post-transfer. NIL violations in these years will result in a recruiting violation.

I like it but it will never happen
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32404 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:02 pm to
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So he’s leaving a state where such is violating the law to another state where he gets paid. Become a Texas citizen and collect away. If he chooses to gift it all away to his family, then there’s no violation. NIL is income, however, and will be taxable.


What are you babbling about? Educate yourself. Texas NIL Law

The laws in the state where you sign are going to apply to a signee. State residency (there is no such thing as state citizenship) doesn’t apply here. Matthew falls under the Texas law, which makes it clear that the school can’t have anything to do with setting up NIL deals between students and boosters or others. It also specifically prohibits using NIL for recruiting.

While Texas doesn’t have the restrictions on boosters setting up NIL deals with students that LA does, what A&M is reported to have done is still 100% illegal and clearly breaks the Texas NIL law. That’s why I mentioned it.

Jimbo came out swinging yesterday to try and deflect attention from this. He can’t admit to what they are doing. However, I think it backfired on him, because all it did was get the media and more people talking about it.

I think it’s clear ATM’s signees and their families were coached on what to say. If they let slip what was happening, it wouldn’t be an NCAA violation and slap on the wrist. It would be breaking state law. No one’s going to jail over this, but the booster/business, kid and family, or any coach found to be involved could be rung up with a shitload in fines.

ETA- Since Caleb Douglas’ specific mention of NIL during his commitment was raised in an earlier post, it’s important to note just how much these state laws are starting to diverge. Florida started with a strict NIL law like LA’s. The schools pushed for change and it was amended in December. Now the Florida schools can directly assist their students in setting up NIL deals.

Now, it’s likely that Douglas still did speak out of turn, because NIL deals aren’t supposed to be used for recruiting. However, I can understand why UF would be more lax about NIL than LSU or A&M. They are allowed to speak to their players about it and directly assist them.

The point of this is that the LA law needs to be changed to allow this immediately. Then we all need a federal law to govern NIL to a single standard in the long term.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 10:14 pm
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3700 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:54 am to
Speedy Noil….not a DB but try again
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14998 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:36 am to
Moscona is a poseur, a turd of a poseur.

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