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re: How soon is too soon to be concerned with DL recruiting under Orgeron? It's his 3rd class
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:07 am to VermilionTiger
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:07 am to VermilionTiger
quote:
This was a problem for Miles. that narrative is actually true
No shite. And it's the same problem O is running into, yet people are just burying their head in the sand now becuz he talk like us
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:10 am to Beessnax
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You are creating fictitious events to support your catastrophic perspective. Its time to sit down and be quiet
No he's not. He's voicing a legitimate concern.
If you're a DL guru at LSU our DL play should be great and you should be able to darn near cherry pick your DL. That isn't happening. Getting Ish will help a lot but the concerns are still there.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:11 am to KLSU
quote:
24/7 composite rankings:
Orgeron 3 years:(not counting 2016)
2017 = 7
2018 = 15
2019 = 5-9(still to be determined)
Miles last 3 years:
2013 = 6
2014 = 2
2015 = 5
lol at 2018 = 15 when it doesn't include Burrow, Cole Tracy, or Alexander.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:11 am to ATLTiger
quote:
does feel a little underwhelming at the moment though.
All because a reportedly underwhelming prospect.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:12 am to VermilionTiger
If you are going to talk about depth, it would a good idea to include all of the DL on the roster
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:14 am to Prominentwon
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Well, they signed 7 last year.
Do they all suck or are we just assuming they’re all scrap becuase they didn’t play over experienced upper class men?
Of those 7, two play offense and two play linebacker.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:18 am to VermilionTiger
I have yet To see a real breakdown of how that’s true
The real truth is that Brick started missing on DL like crazy and we had Senior us depth issues especially switching to 3-4.
OL recruiting wasn’t as bad as people make it out to. We had some high rated OL
The real truth is that Brick started missing on DL like crazy and we had Senior us depth issues especially switching to 3-4.
OL recruiting wasn’t as bad as people make it out to. We had some high rated OL
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:20 am to SammyTiger
quote:
I have yet To see a real breakdown of how that’s true
The real truth is that Brick started missing on DL like crazy and we had Senior us depth issues especially switching to 3-4.
OL recruiting wasn’t as bad as people make it out to. We had some high rated OL
It's a major cop out, sure.. but I don't feel like going to old classes and rankings. But LSU's classes under Miles were predominantly filled with 5* and 4* CBs, Safeties, RBs, and WRs. There was a big splash at DL or OL every other cycle or so, but it was very inflated considering the way we used the WRs and how many of the CBs we could actually put on the field when the prior classes had just as talented guys ahead of them.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:29 am to VermilionTiger
In 2015 we took 5 OL 2 were top 10 OTs and a 5* guard.
2016 we took 3 OL
2014 we took OL who were 4 stars.
DL and keeping the DL on campus was an issue.
Bain and LMFOA getting kicked off the team hurt, but in 2016 we took Lawrence, Logan and Alexander and wanted Oliver bad.
Maybe our top guys were very high ranked skill players, but we had a decent amount of OL too
And we put 4 CBS on the field routinely, so recruiting a lot of them is important. We had major CBS depth issues.
I agree We recruited a lot of WRs for a team running 2 WR sets.
2016 we took 3 OL
2014 we took OL who were 4 stars.
DL and keeping the DL on campus was an issue.
Bain and LMFOA getting kicked off the team hurt, but in 2016 we took Lawrence, Logan and Alexander and wanted Oliver bad.
Maybe our top guys were very high ranked skill players, but we had a decent amount of OL too
And we put 4 CBS on the field routinely, so recruiting a lot of them is important. We had major CBS depth issues.
I agree We recruited a lot of WRs for a team running 2 WR sets.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:44 am to The Pirate King
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Are you seriously complaining? We loaded up last class and are set to load up again next year.
Yall need to remove defensive ends that are OLBs in a 3-4 and look again. Depth is a concern
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:50 am to SammyTiger
quote:
In 2015 we took 5 OL 2 were top 10 OTs and a 5* guard.
2016 we took 3 OL
2014 we took OL who were 4 stars.
DL and keeping the DL on campus was an issue.
Bain and LMFOA getting kicked off the team hurt, but in 2016 we took Lawrence, Logan and Alexander and wanted Oliver bad.
Maybe our top guys were very high ranked skill players, but we had a decent amount of OL too
And we put 4 CBS on the field routinely, so recruiting a lot of them is important. We had major CBS depth issues.
I agree We recruited a lot of WRs for a team running 2 WR sets.
I just checked through the 2011 recruiting class til 2016
Year - QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, DB, LB
2011 - 02, 01, 02, 01, 03, 01, 00
2012 - 00, 01, 01, 03, 01, 03, 04
2013 - 02, 00, 05, 03, 05, 03, 02
2014 - 01, 02, 03, 03, 02, 03, 01
2015 - 00, 03, 04, 03, 01, 03, 00
2016 - 00, 1*, 04, 02, 05, 04, 01
*Devin White listed as a RB
2011 - 40% of the 4*s+ in this class came from the RB, WR, and DB position
2012 - 38% of the 4*s+ in this class came from the RB, WR, and DB position
2013 - 42% of the 4*s+ in this class came from the RB, WR, and DB position
2014 - 50% of the 4*s+ in this class came from the RB, WR, and DB position
2015 - 71% of the 4*s+ in this class came from the RB, WR, and DB position
2016 - 47% of the 4*s+ in this class came from the RB, WR, and DB position
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:56 am to Mickey Goldmill
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lol at 2018 = 15 when it doesn't include Burrow, Cole Tracy, or Alexander.
Oh yea that would have put LSU at 14.
Rules/expectations sure do change for Coach O for some reason..
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 11:57 am
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:07 pm to VermilionTiger
In 2015 we took
Reuben 5* OG
Weathersby 4* Top 10 OT
Okeke 4* Top 10 OT
Magee 3* OT
Brown 3* OT
We had 13 5/4* and 3 were OL
Only 5 OL play out of 22 starters.
3/13 > 5/22
Now DL was an issues, and that’s the year we switched to O to address that issue.
Reuben 5* OG
Weathersby 4* Top 10 OT
Okeke 4* Top 10 OT
Magee 3* OT
Brown 3* OT
We had 13 5/4* and 3 were OL
Only 5 OL play out of 22 starters.
3/13 > 5/22
Now DL was an issues, and that’s the year we switched to O to address that issue.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:12 pm to Not Cooper
There are contributors from the previous classes, but honestly no stand out players like LSU is accustomed to on the DL. That's not knock on the kids, but just reality. They will be solid to good players that will definitely contribute, but you'd think O's area of specialty would be top tier talent on this team. It hasn't panned out that way.
He's always given an excuse, but we'll see what happens.
He's always given an excuse, but we'll see what happens.
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