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re: Harold Perkins low contact with LSU

Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:37 am to
Posted by SlidellTiger
Madisonville, La
Member since Jan 2004
1440 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:37 am to
AGREE
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18611 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:38 am to
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In a recent interview, Harold Perkins stated that he has not had a lot of contact from Lsu's side. Feels like a Denver Harris situation all over again.



Probably because he's cashed the check from A&M and already enrolled in spring courses.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56283 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:38 am to
Aren’t we in a dead period?

Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:40 am to
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I’m just Mansplaining to you that he’s either lying, or LSU knows it’s over.
You should tell Saban, Lincoln and Sark. Bama, USC and Texas all have visits lined up for him next month.

But I’m sure that you’re more in tune with the recruiting of Harold Perkins and Nick Saban is probably just wasting time, like he’s know for…..
Posted by jlandry103
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
94 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:40 am to
Text messages and phone calls are allowed. It is typical for a coach to text and call a recruit daily.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2838 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:41 am to
His comment was that he has not had a lot of conversations with the lsu staff. Which makes total sense as they are all new. Compare how many conversations he has had with a&m current coaches over the past 2 years compared to lsus dc who was named 2 days ago. Sometimes may read too much into what guys say.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26720 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:43 am to
Well, if he’s lying then they are contacting him.

Another option is that this entire scenario has been misconstrued, due to an inaccurate quote (perhaps purposely).
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2838 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:45 am to
I think it is misconstrued due to not understanding the quote. LSU has a complete new defensive staff and hc. It makes perfect sense he hasn’t had the same amount of conversations as other staffs who have been around.
Posted by CreoleKid24
San Antonio TX
Member since Dec 2013
273 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:53 am to
Maybe..just MAYBE Coach Kelly knows a lil something about recruting and evaluating players? Just because this kid is a 5 Star don't mean he will fit the culture Kelly is trying to implement. Last I checked football is a team sport, and maybe this kid doesn't fit. Has anyone took a look at the current roster? Maybe those guys just need good coaching to develop. All this crying about losing players and players signing with other schools don't bother me one bit. I think LSU FINALLY has a Coach that can take average players and make them good players and dare I say...GREAT!! You don't need a million 5 Stars to have a good team. I'm gonna trust the process!
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11699 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:53 am to
Exactly. If we genuinely aren't in talks with him he has given the coaches reason to not talk to him. Otherwise, he's playing possum. The transfer portal has made some of these situations not as big of a deal.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5722 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:00 am to
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If you’re not at least concerned about a 5*, top 5 player in the country, that’s been high on your school his whole life- saying in the final month “LSU’s had low contact with me” then you’re lieing to yourself.

And maybe the staff has solid info on the rumor he has already signed his LOI with the Faggies
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:01 am to
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Well, if he’s lying then they are contacting him.
Oh ok cool. Then you’re sure of it.

quote:

Another option is that this entire scenario has been misconstrued, due to an inaccurate quote (perhaps purposely).
Oh ok, nevermind. Let me know if you think of anything else that might be going on except that they’re all telling the truth…
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:04 am to
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And maybe the staff has solid info on the rumor he has already signed his LOI with the Faggies
Then why is Alabama, Texas, A&M and USC all getting him to visit next month?

Look guys I don’t like it either but y’all have to at least admit that this doesn’t look great. If we win next year and sign 30 studs then frick it, who cares. But right now you’re all gasping at straws and you’re mad at me for being the boogeyman of truth.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:05 am to
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MAYBE Coach Kelly knows a lil something about recruting and evaluating players? Just because this kid is a 5 Star don't mean he will fit the culture Kelly is trying to implement. Last I checked football is a team sport, and maybe this kid doesn't fit. Has anyone took a look at the current roster?
Yeah I’ve seen our LB depth and I’ve seen the 4th best player in the country play.

I’m pretty damn sure we’d be better with Harold Perkins but maybe I’m alone.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12892 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:10 am to
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Ok but why though? What do you think they’re lieing for? You think they give a frick about fans feelings? You think those Texas kids care if they piss off LSU?
The answer to your "why?" question is that, sometimes, the school asks them to and since they're committed/signed, they do it. It happens a couple times every year it seems. That's why the recruit does it.

Why would a school ask a recruit to do it?
- To throw the competition off
- they paid for the service
- recruiting is often about momentum, that assists in keeping it
- ripple effect over other recruits (and future years too)
- Just because reputation matters. So a school ask a recruit to say such to simple cast shade. It wipes off as well as grease and not water sometimes.

There's always a tell btw (when you combine two things):

1. Player has open invite for visit, doesn't visit but claims no contact or poor contact.

2. Nothing coming from the school, only the recruit. That's because IF he signed, the school can mention him by name- and they will. If he hasn't signed, it will all come from the recruit or "camp" and that's because he hasn't really signed.

You put those two together, you can assume it's games and not real. It's still an assumption, but history says it is a good assumption. One of those alone and you are still guessing.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:11 am to
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Since when do we stop recruiting a blue chipper who will be including us in his top 3 schools because we aren't his favorite?


He said low contact, not no contact.

Baker was the main recruiter for Perkins and he was let go a couple weeks ago. The guy that will be coaching the LB and acting DC is still with the Chiefs. If Perkins is really interested in LSU, then he'll wait and get to know House and whoever else is taking over Texas recruiting for LSU. aTm has the advantage of not having a full coaching turnover, so Jimbo and whoever else can still maintain contact. We don't have that luxury at the moment.
Posted by jlandry103
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
94 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:28 am to
I was referring to comments made in here that we may have given up on him
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:29 am to
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But right now you’re all gasping at straws and you’re mad at me for being the boogeyman of truth.



What truth? You are only believing his side and acting like you are smarter than all of us. Harold Perkins isn't going to make or break LSU football. You are being over dramatic about the situation. His main recruiter is no longer at LSU. His next coach is still in the NFL. Sorry that these coaches aren't working on your time line enough to satisfy you.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:43 am to
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What truth? You are only believing his side and acting like you are smarter than all of us.
He and Denver Harris said the same thing. I think the only guy who really
Could be on them would be Kelly, Frank Wilson so I get it. Especially with Denver. But there’s still time with Perkins. I wish we had the full press on him.

I never once said Harold Perkins would make or break LSU. I just said it was disappointing that we’re not recruiting him harder. I would think with our guys signed that I would hope that we could make Jacoby Matthews and Harold Perkins our primary to closeout.

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His main recruiter is no longer at LSU. His next coach is still in the NFL. Sorry that these coaches aren't working on your time line enough to satisfy you.
Satisfying me has nothing to do with it. I’ll never play for LSU.

Said it several times- if we win next year and land a stellar class next year then none of this matters. Maybe Tolan is an all American and it’s all good.

But personally I would rather us do everything possible for Perkins.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 10:47 am
Posted by ScrappyDoo
The Box
Member since May 2015
188 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:45 am to
If he signed already, wouldn't contacting him be a violation?
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