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Fong, Embody Say LSU Trending For DL Trio
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:40 am
Come down from the bridge. The future is trending our way:
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Brian Kelly and Co. have proven their recruiting chops at LSU, building consecutive top-10 classes during his first two years.
That includes landing the state’s No. 1 player and five-star defensive lineman Dominick McKinley in the 2024 class, along with On3 top-50 prospect Gabriel Reliford and four-star EDGE CJ Jackson. The Tigers are looking to load up again in 2025 in the trenches, but are still without a commitment along the defensive line — for now.
According to the On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine (RPM), they’re currently trending to land three of their top targets at the DL and EDGE spots:
4-star EDGE Damien Shanklin
School: Indianapolis (Ind.) Warren Central
On3 Industry Ranking: No. 85
On3 RPM: LSU 70.9%, Notre Dame 21.6%
Latest intel: “I’ve logged a new prediction in favor of LSU for On300 EDGE Damien Shanklin, who also visited for the spring game. The Tigers will have to hold off Alabama, Ohio State, Tennessee and others but they’re the early bar.” — Steve Wiltfong, On3 VP of Recruiting (June 3)
4-star DL Zion Williams
School: Lufkin (Texas)
On3 Industry Ranking: No. 359
On3 RPM: LSU 95.4%, Texas 2.5%
Latest intel: “We feel good about the Tigers coming off the official visit (as covered this morning by us) and with his commitment date set for July 4, we feel like the Tigers sit in a great spot. Zion Williams is high on his relationship with Bo Davis, which dates back to Texas. He’ll still take the rest of his visits, but we’re projecting him to land at LSU. If he announced today, we’d feel extremely good. Gotta weather the visits, but a good source thinks it’ll be hard for Texas to overcome LSU’s lead.” — Billy Embody, BengalTiger.com insider (June 3)
4-star DL Brandon Brown – Texas commit
School: Melbourne (Fla.) Eau Gallie
On3 Industry Ranking: No. 331
On3 RPM: LSU 92.0%, Texas 1.2%
Latest intel: “Melbourne (Fla.) Eau Gallie defensive tackle Brandon Brown finished up another visit to Baton Rouge this weekend and I’ve logged an On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine pick for LSU to flip the Texas commit. He finished up his LSU official visit on Sunday and the visit stood out in a big way. Brown and his mother took a visit to LSU for the Spring Game. This time, they spent even more time around the coaching staff in a family setting.” — Billy Embody, BengalTiger.com insider (June 3)
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:48 am to mpwilging
Listen, BK is a great coach and maybe even a better CEO of a program.
He does however need strong assistants around him to maximize success. Specifically in areas like recruiting.
Well, we now have all of those pieces.
Sloan
Hankton
Brad
Bo
Raymond
Baker
Etc.
If this core unit can stick around for 3-5 years, we put ourselves in prime position to be competing for titles
He does however need strong assistants around him to maximize success. Specifically in areas like recruiting.
Well, we now have all of those pieces.
Sloan
Hankton
Brad
Bo
Raymond
Baker
Etc.
If this core unit can stick around for 3-5 years, we put ourselves in prime position to be competing for titles
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 9:50 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:53 am to OJsLifeCoach
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He does however need strong assistants around him to maximize success. Specifically in areas like recruiting.
Of course that's true but that's what all great coaches do. Look at the coaching trees of Saban, Kelly, Kirby, etc. They surround themselves with the best assistants.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 9:54 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:54 am to OJsLifeCoach
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He does however need strong assistants around him to maximize success.
This is true of every single coach in any sport if national titles are the goal.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:54 am to mpwilging
CBree's day has finally come
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:55 am to ibldprplgld
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This is true of every single coach in any sport if national titles are the goal.
I think that's a big part, other than NIL, that caused nick to hang it up. Replacing elite assistants every year has to be exhausting.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:57 am to GMoney2600
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CBree's day has finally come
Did cbree ever have a day?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:59 am to mpwilging
Those three would be a great start to this year's DL class
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:02 am to JiminyCricket
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course that's true but that's what all great coaches do. Look at the coaching trees of Saban, Kelly, Kirby, etc. They surround themselves with the best assistants.
That's what happened to Gerry dinardo. He brought back the magic with good coordinators. Then they left and his magic fizzled out.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:11 am to mpwilging
Three 4-stars?
Just 4-stars?!?!
Only three?!?!
Where is cbree when we need him most?!?!
Just 4-stars?!?!
Only three?!?!
Where is cbree when we need him most?!?!
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:21 am to JiminyCricket
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Of course that's true but that's what all great coaches do. Look at the coaching trees of Saban, Kelly, Kirby, etc. They surround themselves with the best assistants.
Let's be honest with ourselves. Has Saban or Kirby ever had a defensive season like we had last year? With all the turnover in assistant coaches, have they ever produced a product that bad?
Kelly relies on those around him more than guys like Saban or Kirby.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:26 am to OJsLifeCoach
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If this core unit can stick around for 3-5 years, we put ourselves in prime position to be competing for titles
I genuinely believe that this upcoming season is going to be the make-or-break year... but not necessarily in the typical way. This year is IT--our chance to win a national championship--it's just not *this year's* national championship.
In other words, this upcoming season appears very likely to be both necessary and sufficient to put us on a clear national-championship path.
If we clear the threshold for a "successful" season--probably a playoff birth--then we're probably SET. That (1) basically locks in the game-changing 2025 class we have been hoping for, and (2) gives us lots of positive on-field and off-field momentum as we start pushing for maybe the most loaded crop of Louisiana recruits ever in 2026. So what you're looking at, with a successful 2024 season, is following up our top 5 class from 2024 with consecutive classes that should at worst be in the top 3 and at best could both finish #1. When those classes age into their productive years--probably the year where the 2024 class is seniors--we will have probably the best roster in CFB.
But if this upcoming season is a "failure", things start looking the opposite way. Probably the dream of a game-changing 2025 class falls apart a bit. Then you're coming into the 2025 season--which already looks like somewhat of a retooling year--with big question marks. If that does turn out to be a retooling year, you're now on a two-year down run, and it starts to get harder to keep this crazy group of 2026 louisiana kids in state. The questions start piling up and all of a sudden you've got a coach on the hot seat.
Basically, this is a major tipping point season. Things are either gonna look VERY good or very not good after this year; there is a chance for something in the middle, but it's much smaller than is typically the case.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:30 am to OJsLifeCoach
quote:Kelly walked into a pit at LSU. Not a divot, not a hole, a pit.
Let's be honest with ourselves. Has Saban or Kirby ever had a defensive season like we had last year? With all the turnover in assistant coaches, have they ever produced a product that bad?
Kelly relies on those around him more than guys like Saban or Kirby.
Kelly went 10-4 and won the West in his first year. Saban went 7-6 in his first year. Smart went 8–5 in his first year.
I have faith in Kelly.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:34 am to LifeAquatic
Aquatic, this is a fairly lengthy discussion, but I have to agree with you. However, what do you constitute as a successful season? My take is that we should make the playoffs (top 12), but even if we don't, we can have a somewhat good season, depending upon the outcome of certain games.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:35 am to OJsLifeCoach
Dude, Kirby & Saban are basically the DC of their team. Kelly relies on his DC much more.
Those aren't the same thing
Those aren't the same thing
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:41 am to OJsLifeCoach
I'd love to land them but hate that none of them are in-state. We obviously need to form some pipelines, but LSU is always built within the state with a few pieces from outside. I know his assistants know this, so I am going to trust them on targeting these guys.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:50 am to mpwilging
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what do you constitute as a successful season? My take is that we should make the playoffs (top 12), but even if we don't, we can have a somewhat good season, depending upon the outcome of certain games.
I think "successful" probably means making the playoff.
Like you, I think it's *possible* to miss the playoff but still have "a somewhat good season". But I think we'd have to miss the playoffs in a pretty specific way in order for the season to still be viewed as a success.
To illustrate: Right off the bat, I think you basically have to finish the year ranked no lower than like #16; after that it starts feeling like we're moving backwards. So already you're working with a pretty narrow band of outcomes if you are gonna miss the playoff but still be ranked in that range. To me, it will probably depend on HOW we wound up at that ranking. For instance, if we get another year of incredible offensive play and terrible defense, then I think the season will be viewed as a failure even if we're basically the first team out of the playoff - because it will appear that we've made zero progress. Also: I actually think it'll probably "look" better if one of our losses is unexpected; if we miss the playoff because we lost to Ole Miss, Alabama, and Oklahoma, then I think it feels like a pretty major failure given the lack of marquee wins.
There's obviously a lot of combinations and permutations there, but that's basically where my head is at. It largely boils down to: In order to miss the playoffs and still feel as though we had a successful year, the "story of the season" will have to be juuuuuuust right; it's not impossible but it is unlikely, imo.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:14 am to OJsLifeCoach
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Kelly relies on those around him more than guys like Saban or Kirby.
Kirby and Saban came into coaching on the defensive side.
Better question is if Kelly has ever had an offense as anemic as Saban or Kirby's worst.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:18 am to GMoney2600
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Dude, Kirby & Saban are basically the DC of their team. Kelly relies on his DC much more.
Those aren't the same thing
Okay, then flip it. Has Saban or Kirby ever had an offense as abysmal as our defense was last year? No.
This isn't a shot at Kelly. What he's done here so far has been incredible and I 100% have faith in him bringing a title here.
I don't know why it's such a bad thing to say he's a coach that relies a little more on his coordinators than the 2 I mentioned.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:20 am to mpwilging
Brick by brick defense is going to be stout
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