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re: Enraged by Feaster
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:12 pm to roygu
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:12 pm to roygu
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For Feaster to imply that Harris has been mistreated is totally absurd.
Feaster must be stupid. If not he would have known what his player was getting into. He knew Miles would be the head coach and his MO.
Miles didn't hold Harris back. Harris was given more than ample opportunity at keeping the starting job and he just never improved to where he should have been as a junior. I doubt that it's Miles' fault that Harris never learned how to complete short to intermediate passes on a consistent basis. His accuracy totally sucked, and that's the plain truth.
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:26 pm to chalmetteowl
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Didn't Feaster coach at Many and then in Texas? Two places where hatred of private schools and self-importance is a way of life..
Coached at Gladewater High School in Texas. I don't think he was very successful there.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Don't know about that but Harris has remained loyal to LSU, his teammates and the program through everything. Staying at LSU, not transferring, competing for next year's starting job tells me he is a quality young man.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:13 am to SpookeyTiger
Harris may be a quality young man but he is simply NOT an SEC quality QB.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:17 am to SpookeyTiger
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Don't know about that but Harris has remained loyal to LSU, his teammates and the program through everything. Staying at LSU, not transferring, competing for next year's starting job tells me he is a quality young man.
Hope he wins the starting job! He's a good coach away from being a solid SEC QB.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:20 am to Surv1vor1st
It was clearly obvious that the play calling immediately changed when Etling entered the game. Harris was handcuffed by terrible play calling. He's a much better QB than Etling.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:19 am to Surv1vor1st
Yes, the LSU coaches hated Harris and contrived to call plays where he would fail.
Obviously, this objective was more important to those coaches than winning...
Its a known fact.
Obviously, this objective was more important to those coaches than winning...
Its a known fact.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:28 am to Surv1vor1st
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It was clearly obvious that the play calling immediately changed when Etling entered the game. Harris was handcuffed by terrible play calling. He's a much better QB than Etling.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but there were players that came out after the first couple games Etling played and talked about how they've been calling the same plays, Etling was just finding open guys.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:30 am to Surv1vor1st
Double edged sword there. Part of it was that it was Miles controlling the play calling so there's a handicap right there. The other part is that if the QB couldn't get the plays right in practice, they're not gonna call me in the game. Brandon is a great kid and loves LSU but for whatever reason, he didn't have as many plays in his wheel house as Etling. Can't call em if the QB doesn't know em.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:31 am to bearhc
Feaster is an idiot that needs to be replaced, no sense of reality
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:32 am to Surv1vor1st
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It was clearly obvious that the play calling immediately changed when Etling entered the game. Harris was handcuffed by terrible play calling. He's a much better QB than Etling.
Harris was in offense where he could thrive. A downfield throwing game which is exactly his strength. The problem is, that was his only strength. Accuracy was always an issue and zero touch on short to intermediate throws haunted his completion percentage overall. You cant have a QB completing only around 50-55% of their passes, you just wont be moving the chains consistently, and the offense hurts because of that. In today's game you have to be more dynamic than just being able to throw it 70 yards. If you cant hit short passes consistently, or be a threat on the ground, you're too easy to defend against. Teams will let you throw it over the top on a low percentage pass every time if it means they can shut down your run game and everything else inbetween.
Harris could have been a lot better if he simply just didn't run scared when he did run the football and put some better touch on his shorter passes. There's no doubt he has the physical trait advantage over Etling, but Etling excels in throwing catchable short to intermediate passes. He did this at a 60% clip this year still being asked to throw it downfield a decent bit even though that clearly wasn't a strength of his game. The playcalling changed when Etling came in because they played to his strengths more, if we ran the same offense with Harris it would have been a disaster because Harris was so wild in throwing those short to intermediate passes. Also, Etling clearly had a grasp of the offense where as Harris looked very confused many times on where to throw it or what he was actually doing. You cant give someone a more complicated offense if they cant get the simple one down.
I'd love for Harris to develop touch and accuracy this offseason, and maybe even the ability to not run so scared, but if we're being honest, it's probably just not gunna happen. His shortcomings are what they are at this point more than likely and it's changing in the coming months. Just like Etling suddenly wont develop a strong arm.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:34 am to Surv1vor1st
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It was clearly obvious that the play calling immediately changed when Etling entered the game. Harris was handcuffed by terrible play calling. He's a much better QB than Etling.
I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume Etling is capable of handling a more complex offense. Harris was VERY raw coming to LSU. He needed to be a huge student of the game and have coaches willing/able to bring him along. Whoever was at fault, it just didn't happen.
The same plays look different when a QB can move within the pocket and find secondary receivers.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:54 am to moneyg
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Harris was VERY raw coming to LSU. He needed to be a huge student of the game and have coaches willing/able to bring him along. Whoever was at fault, it just didn't happen.
This is the crux of it. Fault lies everywhere. But what needed to happen was for Harris to redshirt his freshman year and work on mechanics and muscle memory while learning the offense, so that he wouldn't have to think as much about what his feet were doing while he's trying to read a defense.
Part of the issue is that LSU could not develop a competent enough QB to allow Harris to redshirt. Another part of the issue is that we didn't have a QB coach capable of helping Harris fix his mechanical issues. Another part of it issue is that Harris didn't seem to think there were mechanical issues. Yet another part of the problem is that private QB coach from Gameday that teaches poor mechanics.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:05 am to ProjectP2294
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Part of the issue is that LSU could not develop a competent enough QB to allow Harris to redshirt. Another part of the issue is that we didn't have a QB coach capable of helping Harris fix his mechanical issues. Another part of it issue is that Harris didn't seem to think there were mechanical issues. Yet another part of the problem is that private QB coach from Gameday that teaches poor mechanics.
Some QBs aren't fixed. Look at Bama, they had what five on roster and Hurts is the best they could roll out?
Harris was given ample opportunity, ample instruction, and EVERY chance to keep his job (at the expense of his team), Etling was better in every way and it isn't even a question.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:11 am to Surv1vor1st
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It was clearly obvious that the play calling immediately changed when Etling entered the game. Harris was handcuffed by terrible play calling. He's a much better QB than Etling.
Rriiiigghhtt! Assuming the play-calling did change, did it ever occur to your little pea-brain that maybe it was because they had a quarterback that could handle it? Do you actually think the coaches deliberately called plays to handicap Harris and help Etling? Real clever, Feaster.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:29 am to Surv1vor1st
quote:This is false. Should he be, yes. Is he? No.
He's a much better QB than Etling.
Ryan Leaf was physically a freak, and could've been the best of his era...but he wasn't.
quote:this is an absolute fallacy. Same route trees, same blocking assignments, same timing, same OL, same RBs (except a crippled LF), and he just performed better.
It was clearly obvious that the play calling immediately changed when Etling entered the game
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:02 am to BigSlick
quote:We all know Miles just wanted to keep it close and pull it out against Wiscy.
Do you actually think the coaches deliberately called plays to handicap Harris and help Etling? Real clever, Feaster.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:06 am to tigerfoot
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We all know Miles just wanted to keep it close and pull it out against Wiscy.
I don't think you're that far off on this.
I'm very hopeful that we have an offense going forward that allows us to build big enough leads to get back up QBs playing time, giving us a better chance to create some consistency in our QB development.
Though, we actually have had consistency in our QB development for several years. We've consistently failed to do it. The only guys that have had any modicum of success running the offense were coached somewhere else for 2 or 3 years before we got them.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:46 am to thunderbird1100
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Harris was in offense where he could thrive.
You seriously don't believe that...
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:01 pm to moneyg
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I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume Etling is capable of handling a more complex offense.
Based on what exactly??
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