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re: Efton Reid...

Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Dwainwright
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:37 pm to
We are not gonna run the space the floor offense next season. Half court will be motion and pick and roll..Pinson is very good at the pick and roll..Days can pick and pop. (I think Days is returning). The glaring deficiency on this years team besides rebounding was quickness. I would not characterize any of our starters this year as quick. Bama and Ark especially, were exceptionally quick. Thats an attribute that you have it or you dont. You cant teach quickness. Pinson is definitely quick. So is Gaines. Shareef has some quickness. So does Leblanc. I think both Miller and Eason will also help in this area. Should be a big upgrade next season.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285265 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:44 pm to
You can’t win without 3pt shooting

And not sure they have a true PG but hey that’s what will Wade likes it seems
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133808 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:58 pm to
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The glaring deficiency on this years team besides rebounding was quickness.


Thank you. Someone else saw it. I must have made a dozen post last season complaining about the lack of quickness. It started with Watford and Thomas albeit they were skilled. I mean quick and unskilled teams like UGA gave LSU fits last season.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15398 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:25 am to
All you keep saying is about shooting. Cam Thomas was one of the best shooters in America last year but shot 32% from 3.

You have not gone through every highlight of Adam Miller and Pinson’s to conclude why their percentage was what it was. You really have no idea about what Knight or Fudge can do.

You talk about stats from when kids were Fr or Soph like they can’t improve. You act like Eric Gaines is going to be a 20% FG% shooter his entire career.

Lastly, not a SINGLE player played in this offensive or with this coach. You have no earthly idea what another school was teaching or their offensive system. It’s nauseating
Posted by Hydrilla Gorilla
North Shore
Member since May 2017
1444 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:40 am to
I'm so ready for the Twitter melt when he announces LSU
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4888 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:59 am to
Absolutely, he's the C we've needed.
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5924 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:25 am to
I think Wade has fixed the quickness issue, if we get Reid oh boy. We will have an actual threat in the middle for the first time since KBW, and I believe Pinson and Miller are fixing to tear up the SEC. If Days comes back or if we can get a wing to step up (maybe Wilkinson?) the sky will be the limit with this team
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:28 am to
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Cam Thomas was one of the best shooters in America last year but shot 32% from 3.


Based on what? I would love to hear the ignorance you are about to spew with that take


He was the 3rd best 3pt shooter on what was the 123rd ranked 3pt shooting team and he was the main reason they were so bad


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You have not gone through every highlight of Adam Miller and Pinson’s to conclude why their percentage was what it was.



Pinson has taken 300 collegiate 3 pt attempts lol

33% career.

I’d love a big jump but at some point you are what you are


Miller has a nice shot & room to grow. Not sure what I said about him is unfair


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You talk about stats from when kids were Fr or Soph like they can’t improve. You act like Eric Gaines is going to be a 20% FG% shooter his entire career.



If your MO as a coach is to get 1 & 2 year players you better damn well hope they adjust fast

I think Gaines can give you Garrett temple-type offense as a complimentary player but in the end I think you need to ask yourself why he targeted two transfer guards to bring in.


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Lastly, not a SINGLE player played in this offensive or with this coach. You have no earthly idea what another school was teaching or their offensive system. It’s nauseating


I think your lack of objectivity & overall lack of basketball knowledge is nauseating
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5902 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:32 am to
I hate somewhat agreeing with Lester....but I think hes mostly right here. Mostly. 3pt shooting will be our question mark....hopefully not an achilles heal.


And I also find it unfathomable how someone has time to accumulate 257k+ posts here.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10345 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:46 am to
There are lots of ways to win basketball games. Gonzaga proved last year you don't have to be centered around the 3 point shot. Went undefeated all the way to the NCAA finals.

If you run an offense like Alabama then yeah...you better have some good 3 point shooters.

With an inside presence that may demand double teams (Reid) it will only help LSU's looks from 3.

Wade's teams have had very few players shoot even 35% for a season, and he has won more league games over the past few years than any other SEC coach.

Some of you are too dramatic.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4888 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:47 am to
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I’d love a big jump but at some point you are what you are


Honestly, if we can play better defense all-around and have a stronger force near the basket on both ends, A couple percentage points in 3-pt range is a fair trade off. That said, I still hope these guys can improve.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13314 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:52 am to
Just be patient. We will know if Lester knows more basketball than Wade, come March.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285265 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:59 am to
Last year they were rather poor shooting the 3 but they had Cam Thomas stopping the clock 8x a game for free points to supplement that.

This team is trending to be an average at best shooting team, so they’ll have to find something to supplement that like they did with Cam & his FTs. You’re going into the season again with no true PG either, that’s an issue for me but we shall see. Which one(s) of these guys are going to be committed to making their teammates better?

Wade’s offensive philosophy is not always conducive to long stretches of good defense, but that may have to be something to consider.

If they add Reid, along with Eason & a guy like Gaines then maybe you are right & defense can be more of a priority,
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285265 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:01 am to
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Just be patient. We will know if Lester knows more basketball than Wade, come March.



What’s your opinion?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32206 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:03 am to
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I hate somewhat agreeing with Lester....but I think hes mostly right here. Mostly. 3pt shooting will be our question mark....hopefully not an achilles heal


Truth be told, this past season was the first season under Wade that LSU shot the 3 well. Even then, LSU was ranked only 203 in % of points from three pointers. LSU was a weak 3 point shooting team in 18-19, but still was able to put together a good offense. We now have 4 years of data to evaluate and some trends have developed. One of those is that despite generally being one of the poorer three point shooting teams in the country Wade has put together some of the most efficient offenses in the country year after year. Point being, Wade has always found a way on offense even with some noticeable deficiencies

This past season LSU averaged about 8 made 3 pointers per game. At their worst (the prior 3 seasons) they averaged about 6-7 made 3 pointers per game. LSU has thrived on offense through their ability to score at the rim and FT line, along with generally being a very good offensive rebounding team.

Would I like to see more and better three point shooting? Absolutely. But weak 3 point shooting hasn't killed LSU under Wade (horrible defense and poor defensive rebounding has). Plus, guys like Pinson and Miller are unknowns in an LSU uniform. Pinson was a 40% three point shooter in his first season at Mizzou before regressing horribly. Maybe a change of offensive style will suit him and we see the shooter from his freshman year vs. the last two years. Miller, as a true freshman, was a 34% three point shooter for a team that was ranked 310 in 3 point attempts per game. Maybe a little more freedom offensively suits his game as well.
Posted by Gallant_Gringo
Member since Mar 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:04 am to
You catch a bunch of sh*t but you’re a good poster. This is true. I’m hoping we become a team that relies more on pounding the glass, slashing, and playing good defense. Murray may be able to be our sharp shooter from 3.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5902 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:07 am to
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Alt26


You are also mostly correct.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285265 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:18 am to
Thank you. I don’t feel like I’m saying anything controversial. It’s a mixed bag of pieces that will need to come together quickly. There’s good talent there. Just wish there was a knock down guy or 2 that you knew was going to hit them night in & out.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5902 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:20 am to
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Just wish there was a knock down guy or 2 that you knew was going to hit them night in & out.


Hopefully Miller becomes that.

Knight seems to like the 3 in his highlights...but thats highlights. Not sure of his percentage
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5417 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:22 am to
I also think it’s tough to tell with Knight because he’s not going to have to shoulder all of the load like he did at SJSU.
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