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re: Efton Reid...

Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:46 am to
Posted by BLyonsTiger
Sugar Land
Member since Dec 2010
364 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:46 am to
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I’m not trying to be a smartass or dodge your question but I mean that is kind of a given.


It’s also kind of a given that every team wants to shoot the three ball at a higher percentage. That is just not as high on the list on things that need improvement from us.

Let’s just move on and get excited about Reid. If we pull him, our roster will be in great shape.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:48 am to
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They should never not have a rim protector.



But we've only had that for 1 year Wade has been here, 1 year out of 4. It was also the only year the defense is what you would describe as a strength or competent enough to deter other team's offenses.

This is why I love this kind of pickup with Reid. We need a rim protector and/or a big who can actually guard in a lot of places, in this case, one who also can provide some offense.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 11:50 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28246 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:55 am to
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And they have never been a threat to make any postseason noise because of it.


They have never been a threat to make big postseason noise because of terrible DEFENSE. The exact same reason why the other team in that group of three, Iowa, hasn't done anything in the post season. They are tremendous on one end of the floor and awful on the other. Gonzaga has been a great offensive AND defensive team.

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Pressure them on Offense offense offense. Run. Baskets. Be multiple.

The defense is never going to be outstanding if you hang your hat on that philosophy.


Since you used Gonzaga as a comp, over the last three seasons they have played at a much higher tempo than LSU. YET, they still found a way to be good both offensively AND defensively.

LSU's problem hasn't been that they want to play pressure defense. It's that the way they play it simply doesn't work. They place HUGE emphasis on creating steals and deflections...at the expense of overall poor defense. How may times did we see guys in poor guarding position on the perimeter because they were trying to poke the ball away rather than simply keeping themselves between the man and the basket? Or unnecessarily helping off of shooters trying to get a back door steal when the guy with the ball in the post was pretty well defended.


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It’s also prone to streakiness. You depend on scoring off the dribble all the time, you’re going to die by it. And LSU will always be capped because of it.


Except they really haven't been over the course of ~80 games. And much of any "streakiness" can be mitigated by playing defense. You can absorb some droughts on offense when your not allowing your opponent to score while you are in that drought. And those droughts have been few and far between given that LSU has averaged the 2nd most ppg in the nation over the past 3 seasons.

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You’re telling LSU couldn’t have had a better offense if cam Thomas & smart made the extra pass every once in a while? Are you taking an awkward fading shot over 2 defenders by Thomas or Darius Days wide open for a 3 in the corner?


Absolutely you would have loved to see more of that. But it ultimately is not what killed the team. Even if they made it more difficult they STILL scored....they lost when the just couldn't stop their opponents from scoring. Against a VERY good Michigan defense (top 5) LSU scored the 3rd most points they allowed all season. Yet, they still lost because they allowed Michigan to shoot 54%

Perhaps you look at it as "well, if they just could have scored 7-10 more points on easy baskets they would win more". I look at it as if they could just allow 7-10 less ppg their explosive offense could run away from teams instead of trading baskets.

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Do you want balance or do you want your eggs in 1 basket?


No. I want them to actually give even the slightest of shits about playing defense...EVEN IF that resulted in a slight downtick in offensive efficiency
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:12 pm to
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It’s also kind of a given that every team wants to shoot the three ball at a higher percentage.


Really, cause everyone is saying it’s fine
Posted by BLyonsTiger
Sugar Land
Member since Dec 2010
364 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:14 pm to
It is fine. That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be nice to improve. Our two point percentage is elite, and it would still be nice to improve that too. You don’t need to be obtuse.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Since you used Gonzaga as a comp, over the last three seasons they have played at a much higher tempo than LSU. YET, they still found a way to be good both offensively AND defensively.


Well yea they have top 10 talent playing in a mid major and can afford that effort on both ends consistently;


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Except they really haven't been over the course of ~80 games. And much of any "streakiness" can be mitigated by playing defense.


Except they have because most of their losses have common theme. Especially this last season. Bad shooting night or low assist total. It’s not really complicated. It’s right there front & center



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No. I want them to actually give even the slightest of shits about playing defense.


Keep Enjoying your volatility & sweet 16 cap then. :dunno;
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3360 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
I really can’t believe we let this guy troll us so often. He is not even hiding it and we still fall for it lol.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Basketball is simple but you can’t tell anything from one component.


After spending the entire thread talking only about 1 component of basketball, how lacking that 1 component will inhibit a team’s success, and how you can’t beat a team like Baylor without that 1 component, Lester now demands to see multiple components to figure out how a team beat Baylor.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 3:17 pm to
The goal is scoring efficiency at 3 levels & LSU generally does well in the other 2 areas. But you can’t replicate what good 3pt shooting does to a defense other then being a good 3pt shooting team.

I had no reason to comment on LSU & 2pt buckets because they are good there. His example didn’t exactly apply to my theory but by all means pretend that it does if it makes you happy
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 4:06 pm to
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I had no reason to comment on LSU & 2pt buckets because they are good there.


Oh you can win games no doubt. But you aren’t beating teams like Gonzaga & Baylor

Except you did comment on the 2pt buckets, bc Oh you can win games no doubt.

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His example didn’t exactly apply to my theory but by all means pretend that it does if it makes you happy


His example directly and indisputably proves your “theory” incorrect. And after that happened, you attempted to shift your “theory” from being only about 1 component, the 3 pt shot, to multiple components in order to save face while hoping no one would notice your latest failure.

I don’t have to pretend anything, it’s right there for all to see.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 4:35 pm to
Interesting twist, I appreciate the effort
Posted by LanTheBuilder
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2015
1251 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:05 pm to
5 pages of arguing with the biggest dumb arse on this site. I’m curious about Reid.... you know the topic of this thread.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:19 pm to
Lester Earl is a legend in his own mind. If one thinks the opposite of what he says, they will be right more often than not.
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10182 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:36 pm to
I ride for Lester Earl
OG on here
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:41 pm to
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f one thinks the opposite of what he says, they will be right more often than not.


That hasn’t gone well for you, tho
Posted by CoachRay
Member since Jul 2019
58 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:57 pm to
Does anyone have any info on reid or is this thread just a big pissing match?
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5065 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:58 pm to
I think everyone is kind of lost right now. Whole situation is weird.

Second time he was ready to commit and didn’t.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66404 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:36 pm to
Is he still expected to commit before end of day?
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:39 pm to
You are wrong again Lester. Keep it up for the hat trick.
Posted by cowboy4ever
z-town
Member since Dec 2009
2228 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:46 pm to
For the sake of everyone that's actually checking this thread for news on the topic (Efton Reid) could you guys knock it off with your back and forth bickering
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 7:30 pm
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