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re: Don't let anyone tell you that 5* recruits don't matter.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:39 pm to CrystalPreserves
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:39 pm to CrystalPreserves
4 star players are still elite so yes, stars matter.
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:41 pm to Cs
Who would’ve thought that out of all the high dollar 5 star recruits Texas A&M paid for, the best of them all would be the one that got away 
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:49 pm to ronk
No, they don’t.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:57 pm to Cs
It’s true, some are a bust and some lower ranked players definitely play above their ranking. That 5* ranking is there for a reason, recruiting today is paramount in college football and now there are services making a living off evaluating, ranking, and websites are big deal. The diamonds are found by coaches who knows more than you and I , also they’re looking for certain traits that they can coach up. Bama has won 5 championships with their 8 #1 recruiting classes that’s not a coincidence, hell even Less won one with one of Saban’s classes. If you don’t think that Stars matter then you’re Old or lying to yourself. We may not get very many but you can bet your last dollar that you can’t win without some or be in the mix to get them. Arch is no 5* but look what those 5 stars have done for Texas’s recruiting. You can have your couple of overachieving 3*s but give me all the 5*s I can handle. If 2 are busts that’s fine, but if 1 turns out like Perkins He’s a Season Changer. Facts
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 11/12/22 at 6:29 pm to CrystalPreserves
Dude, they 100% fricking matter. Everyone says but Jacob Hester and Justin Jefferson. Yes, they played higher than their ranking. There are 32 5 stars and a higher percentage of them are college standouts and nfl drafts picks than 4 and 3 stars. That is a fact that cannot be argued. The nfl is mostly made up of 3 and 4 stars because there are 1,760 players in the nfl. If every single 5 stars in the last 10 years was a starter in the nfl you’d still need 1,440 lesser ranked players.
Also, why has Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, etc been in the championship hunt every year. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not because of their recruitment of 3 stars.
Also, why has Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, etc been in the championship hunt every year. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not because of their recruitment of 3 stars.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 6:48 pm to Cs
5* PLAYERS absolutely matter. 5* recruits do not matter a bit. If the coaches see a player and evaluate him to be a future star player ( ie a 5*) but the recruiting services do not, should the coaches stop recruiting him? Or should the coaches trust their own evals? What day you?
Posted on 11/12/22 at 6:55 pm to Tigershine
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5* PLAYERS absolutely matter. 5* recruits do not matter a bit. If the coaches see a player and evaluate him to be a future star player ( ie a 5*) but the recruiting services do not, should the coaches stop recruiting him? Or should the coaches trust their own evals? What day you?
I don't know why people here act like recruiting services don't matter because looking at the annual rankings makes it clear that the recruiting sites do a damn good job evaluating talent. They're not perfect and no evaluators are, but they're pretty damn close.
There's a reason the same handful of teams at the top of the recruiting rankings are also at the top of the polls at the end of the season and playing for championships.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:02 pm to tiggerthetooth
So LSU should hire people who are experts at evaluating football players, pay them millions of dollars to do so, and then ignore those evaluations? Should they just recruit by whom the services rate are the best? We could save a buttload of money. Just pay for a service. I think you've hit on something here.
My point is the stars aren't the end all, be all. The coaches' evals need to be the final barometer.
Just look at the tight ends. Which guy do you want playing for you right now? Arik Gilbert or Mason Taylor?
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My point is the stars aren't the end all, be all. The coaches' evals need to be the final barometer.
Just look at the tight ends. Which guy do you want playing for you right now? Arik Gilbert or Mason Taylor?
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This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:09 pm to Tigershine
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So LSU should hire people who are experts at evaluating football players, pay them millions of dollars to do so, and then ignore those evaluations? Should they just recruit by whom the services rate are the best?
Where the hell did I say that? You don't know how the coaches evaluate players other than scholarship offers, but it turns out the recruiting services do a pretty good job at evaluating who LSU offers. Yeah, there may be some discrepancies and some under the radar guys that the coaches look at, but as a spectator the recruiting services are all I have to know who is who from the high school ranks.
Nowhere am I suggesting they shouldn't evaluate talent on their own, but the implication by some in this thread that the recruiting services have no clue how to evaluate talent is simply wrong. They do a good job, and about as good as NFL evaluators as far as we can see.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:15 pm to Tigershine
You do realize that LSU signed Gilbert. So we in fact recruited and signed that 5 star tight end. So we did in fact spend resources getting that 5 star on campus. He is also a fantastic athlete.
Do you know that talent evaluators that we pay millions are mainly after the top 250 recruits. They aren’t camping outside a 3 stars house if there is a Toviano interested in us.
Again, stars matter.
Do you know that talent evaluators that we pay millions are mainly after the top 250 recruits. They aren’t camping outside a 3 stars house if there is a Toviano interested in us.
Again, stars matter.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:18 pm to ronk
Yeah stars really mattered there huh? You star gazers are annoying Frick's..
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:36 pm to ronk
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You do realize that LSU signed Gilbert. So we in fact recruited and signed that 5 star tight end. So we did in fact spend resources getting that 5 star on campus. He is also a fantastic athlete.
Do you know that talent evaluators that we pay millions are mainly after the top 250 recruits. They aren’t camping outside a 3 stars house if there is a Toviano interested in us.
Again, stars matter.
Did you respond to the wrong person? I agree with you.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:49 pm to Tigershine
Again, one single example and you are basing the whole of LSU’s recruiting on it.
Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia are are full of 3 stars right?
Quick glance says LSU has 17 4 stars. I’ll tell coach to tell them to kick rocks cause we need 2 a d 3 stars.
Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia are are full of 3 stars right?
Quick glance says LSU has 17 4 stars. I’ll tell coach to tell them to kick rocks cause we need 2 a d 3 stars.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:58 pm to BK785
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He's the Micah Parsons of college football right now....
He’s better than Micah
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
Don’t see Joe Burrow on your list
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:30 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Don’t see Joe Burrow on your list
Because he was a 4-star.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:35 pm to Rohan Gravy
You mean the Ohio State commit, 4 star QB, and number 8 QB in the country. We probably should have gone after the 2 star Tulsa commit and number 87 QB in the country.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:57 pm to Cs
This young man is incredible. Really. No LSU bias, he's an incredible football player. Which game have you not heard him being awed over by the commentators?! You don't normally hear them gushing over a LB like you do him.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 11/12/22 at 11:39 pm to Cs
You say the team was sleep walking….. the offense was sleep walking to an extent. Would say this may have been the best defensive game of the year. If the defense continues down this path and the offense can have a solid game there are not many teams that can beat this team at their best.
The best part is most of this team will return but they will be the hunted instead of the hunter and it will be much harder to win than it was when they were underrated and under the radar.
The best part is most of this team will return but they will be the hunted instead of the hunter and it will be much harder to win than it was when they were underrated and under the radar.
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