re: Derek Pananaski says fan negativity obviously impacting recruiting

I agree SFP...

But TD.com get ESPN exopsure. I see it referneced in numberous articles. Its like TMZ.


We are considered a large voice in the south. Other schools and fanbases come here to get the scoop. I dont go trolling other boards like some of you guys do. But i know for a fact that the negativity from this board has a mjor impact on our program. We are the voice of teh fanbase. All collected in one centralized location.

It hit my when the Honey badger phenom took off. That came directly from thsi board. I still remeber the day we laughed about it. Now its on T shirts and Espn.

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ok, please reveal your facts...

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Oh Bird Man...

I'll get the banning I've been begging for for years....

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Does it hurt? If so, what is your proof?

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My experience in my job.

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Derek Pananaski (sp?) is tight with LSU...his opinion will be filtered to not be too critical of LSU, if at all.

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Of course. And I would expect Jacques Doucet to do the opposite.

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Did you expect him to blame Miles for the recruiting woes this year?

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See my statement above. Is the reason this thread is anchored bc who of DP being in the title? Just curious.

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Is TD.com/fans responsible for the players who were upset about their lack of playing time, or upset with how the coaches handled the game?

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Not completely. Twitter, FB, and other social media assist with this.

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How can you say it? What is your proof?

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My experience. I also don't want to be outed to become stalking bait for the crazies on this board. Thanks.

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I love these generic statements that can't be brought back.

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Ok. I'll quit. My apologies. I will gladly step away for a while again.

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Are you living in a vacuum? Do you really think that LSU fans are unique in their negativity? Are you really in a position to know that?

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Oh, I've seen some delusional fans from other schools. I will say this, the line of negativity has been way overblown here. It really has. I admitted in the past I was guilty of it as well. My post history proves my hypocricy on several topics, a lot of it due to my immaturity as a professional as well.

I like this place (TD), I really do. But the negative the past several weeks has FAR outweighed the positive more than any other point in this board's history. If you don't think that hasn't played a role in a lot of this, you are mistaken. But this is the nature of the beast in social media.

With that. I'm out of here for a while. I'm going to put myself back in my little positive LSU bubble I preached about a few weeks ago and enjoy what we have.

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sure...

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LOL. I sense the sarcasm. You don't have to believe me. Not really concerned about that. I know what I experienced.

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right...because Doucet doesn't run a subscription-based website that relies on insider info.

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Ok, I understand your disdain for DP. I really don't care about what he or anyone else says, really.

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dude, LSU fans have always been negative after losses...even before the internet.

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Yes, and I've been one of them.

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Maybe you should also blame TV for televising LSU's poor performance in the title game.

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I was there. I saw it as well. At some point we, as a fanbase, have to get over it. Clearly many here have not. It has been three weeks. Baseball starts soon. Concentrate on something else. Jeez.

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LSU choked on the biggest stage...to a conference rival. How can you not expect negativity?

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Again. I was there. Paid a lot of $$$ to see it happen. It was three weeks ago. Time to move on. I, personally, still can't believe we went 13-0 with what we had at QB here. Fans lose sight of this.

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Collins committed to Alabama BEFORE the game...yet we want to blame fan negativity for him going to elsewhere.

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More to it than just one guy.

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Torshiro says that the players were not happy at LSU. Why would he say that? Did he lie? Or is he being truthful?

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In my experience, chances are really good that he wasn't being truthful. Think back to when you were 17 and you literally told a lie. Now have a national spotlight on you and see what you would say. Russell Shep was completely negative after the game, yet he's staying....I could go on and on. The sky isn't falling dude.

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Look, I am just here to defend TD and its role as an LSU fan site.

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And I would expect nothing less.

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I graduated from LSU and have been a fan since forever.

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Ditto and ditto.

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I want what is best for LSU. But I also like people being able to speak their mind.

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I agree. Negativity is oftentimes necessary. I know this. I understand this. People on the inside understand this as well. My whole point is that a line has been crossed. That's all.

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But I am not a big recruiting guy.

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I still am by default. LOL. Believe me, I wanted nothing more than to ignore this board today, but I just can't help it. I was trained.

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I think this 2012 class is fine.

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Indeed it is.

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I am not caught up with number of stars and recruiting rankings.

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They really mean shite. And our coaches deserve a lot of credit for often ignoring "conventional recruiting wisdom".

On a side note: I read recently Victor Cruz (WR Giants) was a 1Star recruit in HS. Can you believe that? Anyway, back on topic.

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So, since I can accept valid reasons for a kid going out of state, I don't feel that fan negativity impacted recruiting this year.

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You have your opinion, I have mine.

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I think the terrible performance on Jan 9 had a far greater impact than some of you want to admit.

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It did, but understand this:

Kids who are true competitors and want to come to LSU look at Jan 9th as an opportunity, not a fault. Guys who you want representing LSU have the mental toughness to recognize Jan 9th for what it was. They also know 13-0 wasn't a fluke either. IF they left bc of Jan 9th, good riddance! Guys like Tishiro Davis will enjoy 8 win seasons at UT. Let him have it.

I could go on and on...

DP also said LC to LSU. You're right, he is one smart mother fricker

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But maybe Derek should blame the paysites for creating this system that assigns stars and rankings to unproven 17 year olds, and labels them before they have played one snap in a college game.

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Damn son.

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GABlueDog

Well of course. I mean, it couldn't be the coaches' faults.

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Of course the coaches are responsible. DP didn't say they weren't. And he didn't say it was the fans' fault. He said fan negativity has impacted recruiting. If you think [a recruit] hearing his friends and families of friends talking badly about the program they claim to support doesn't influence a recruit's decision to go there or not, you're wrong.

I hate to be the guy to inform Derrick, but the fans aren't the ones who laid down jan9th in our home state vs pur most hated rival in the biggest game of the season.

I don't know what any of you guys paid that week but I know what it cost me.
So F him.

Jmho.

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How so? Were there any examples cited...or was it just assumption?

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I don't know one way or the other, but he has more contact with recruits.

He probably hears it from them.

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'm with Chicken on this argument. When did we lose Devall? While we were number 1 and had beaten Bama and everyone was on cloud nine. Collins? Same. Patrick Miller clearly wanted to be here, but the staff botched the situation.

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What about all the JJ stuff at the beginning of the year or TM7,11 and 24 debacle. Our fans make a big deal out of everything.