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re: 5* 2027 QB Elijah Haven RPM'd to UF

Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:31 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287936 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:31 am to
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There were plenty options if Nuss left


Yap. QB openings dictate QB movement
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127757 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:39 am to
If LSU has another good offensive year and Nuss is what we think he is, QBs from other teams will be lining up around the block to transfer to LSU
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33335 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:33 pm to
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If LSU has another good offensive year and Nuss is what we think he is, QBs from other teams will be lining up around the block to transfer to LSU


Even if they don't lsu can easily get a top qb transfer.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287936 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:41 pm to
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If LSU has another good offensive year and Nuss is what we think he is, QBs from other teams will be lining up around the block to transfer to LSU


Even if they don't lsu can easily get a top qb transfer.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33335 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:48 pm to
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Even if they don't lsu can easily get a top qb transfer.


Wtf?

Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
7549 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:19 am to
We will trade Lagway for Have.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
55794 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:00 am to
Hey! Sorry I am just now getting to to look into this.


Our side doesn't appear to be on him nearly as heavy as the other suitors. if picking today it's between SMU and Moo State.

“I don’t have a set schedule but I do have some schools that I plan to go see,” Zeigler remarked. “I plan to see Mississippi State, Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan and SMU.”
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 10:02 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39919 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:01 am to
Nvm
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 10:02 am
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
55794 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:39 am to


If it does happen like the internet rumors that have been spread
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Haven is right up selecting Napier to develop him to be an NFL QB instead of BK. Sorry but considering we are empty at QB, that is sad.


BK isn’t working hands on with QBs dumbass. Neither is Napier.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Disagree. John Mateer would have been a monster in this offense. Can you see him and Caden Durham in the backfield? Carson Beck had problems with turnovers like Nuss, however his WRs dropped more passes than anyone else in the country making him look worse. Improvement at LSU would have turned him into whatever elite passer Nuss will be this year. Fernando Mendoza was a legit NFL talent at Cal. He is 6'5 225 and is a pure passer but also has wheels. Darian Mensah, the guy from Tulane was a freshman last year and put up great numbers. He can run and has an NFL build. He would have also been elite and a heisman level player at LSU this year.


Please. NONE of these guys would have been a sure-fire upgrade at QB. None of them have played against this level of competition consistently and most of them have had ups and downs to say the least. I do not expect Mateer to walk into the SEC and be a top half of the league QB. This class was very mediocre when it comes to PROVEN QB talent and experience.

You CANNOT count on the portal for QBs year to year. There is no way to bank on their being a P4 guy with starting experience like Riley Leonard or a guy with obvious difference-maker ability like Cam Ward. Will Howard was no star, but at least he had the experience and high-level athleticism to be an upgrade at QB for Ohio State.

The only guy you mentioned who MIGHT be on this level is Mateer, but he may also be a classic system guy and a bust vs SEC defenses. There’s a reason OU brought his OC to Norman, as well. And we all know that wouldn’t have happened here, which would have made him an even bigger potential bust.

I wouldn’t take Mensah at LSU if he was fricking free. Heisman I really enjoyed watching Memphis’ defense take a shite on him and Tulame for 3 quarters on their home field. And Carson Beck had plenty of weapons around him at UGA only to turn in a fairly mediocre season.

It’s one thing to take an insurance guy like MVB, or fill a hole for a season, but if you count on the portal for QBs on a yearly bases like some of you idiots are advocating, your luck will run out just based on who’s available and if they happen to work dropped onto your roster. If you hit a lean class or can’t get your guy for whatever reason, or they just don’t work, it’s a shite-load of money down the drain for a mediocre to bad season. And then you’re right back to the portal for another patch, instead of a guy you develop and know.
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 2:37 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Even if they don't lsu can easily get a top qb transfer.


This is horseshite. LSU wasn’t fighting anyone for Daniels because he’s was coming off a mediocre season and an injury before that. Sure, we can get a guy in that position, but who knows if they will work out. Considering where we were at the time, it was a smart move.

We aren’t there today. You don’t take a guy like Daniels was coming in who you can’t trust to be the guy. And if there are 3-5 other big time programs vying for a portal QB, especially from the SEC and upper Big 10 who can match or exceed money, then there is absolutely no guarantee of this. Even if guys better than we saw in this class are willing to leave where they are, it’s still going to be a fight to get one…just like recruiting HS players only with fewer options.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75806 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 4:16 pm to
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LSU wasn’t fighting anyone for Daniels because he’s was coming off a mediocre season and an injury before that.


This isn’t true.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 4:40 pm to
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This isn’t true.


What other major programs made offers when he hit the portal?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75806 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 5:25 pm to
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What other major programs made offers when he hit the portal?


He was pretty much committed to Mizzou. Regardless of whether you think they’re a major program, they’ve won 21 games the last two years and are in the SEC.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6706 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 6:40 pm to
Lil Nuss
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:34 pm to
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He was pretty much committed to Mizzou. Regardless of whether you think they’re a major program, they’ve won 21 games the last two years and are in the SEC


I would not, especially when it comes to QBs.

If we are chasing a starting P4 QB coming off of a good season, Mizzou would be the least of our worries. Over the last few seasons, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, USC and Miami have all taken portal QBs who were top 3 in that class. None of those programs are short of cash.

I’m just saying it’s not a foregone conclusion that we can just show up and get our top choice year after year.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9494 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:18 am to
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You CANNOT count on the portal for QBs year to year. There is no way to bank on their being a P4 guy with starting experience like Riley Leonard or a guy with obvious difference-maker ability like Cam Ward.
Ever heard of tempering? Argue whether or not it's legal, but it happens all the time. A top-level QB who has proven himself will "take" phone calls from elite programs such as LSU.

That said, I think we still need to heavily recruit high-school QBs.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14801 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:22 am to
There's hardly a better recruiting tool in the NCAA than a big game atmosphere with a win in Death Valley. These are kids, and new is exciting. He's seen LSU so many times that he's comfortable. It's okay that he's looking around, but I really feel like at when all the dominoes fall home will win. The comfort of being close to home and having that support around will be the deciding factor.
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
2292 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 7:51 pm to
He just got Fong’d to us
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