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Window units
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:22 pm
I’m looking to get a window unit for a garage, shop that’s about 350 sq ft and insulated. I do not need to keep it cold, but I would like to keep it moderately dehumidified. What should I get? Do I need a separate dehumidifier? My current ac unit has no thermostat, mostly just on/off. Tia.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:36 pm to turkish
I've got a 23K BTU window unit in my man cave that has a thermostat and it does cycle when it's on and I'm down there tossing darts or working out.
It does remove quite a bit of moisture because I can see it collecting outside the unit as it drips off the coils.
My man cave area is approximately 850 sq. ft. so you wouldn't need that many BTU's to handle your 350 sq. ft. garage and could likely get by with a 110 Volt unit
It does remove quite a bit of moisture because I can see it collecting outside the unit as it drips off the coils.
My man cave area is approximately 850 sq. ft. so you wouldn't need that many BTU's to handle your 350 sq. ft. garage and could likely get by with a 110 Volt unit
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:40 pm to turkish
You have a roll up door or just a regular walk in door? I had to get a dehumidifier due to my roll up door even though the room is insulated otherwise
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:15 pm to turkish
If you have a normal roll up door, I don’t think you could get a large enough air conditioner to keep it dehumidifier.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:43 pm to turkish
I put Toshiba window unit in mine, it's setup on a timer control so it's only on for four 1.5 hour periods per day. Has no trouble keeping the humidity in check.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:05 am to Spankum
That is one thing I’ve wondered about. It’s a new panel garage door that seals well for now. Your point is taken, though. Do you recommend a dehumidifier, in addition to the a/c, then?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:19 am to turkish
I’ll tell you the problem with dehumidifiers is they have a motor and it produces heat, especially the cheaper ones. I think you can buy expensive ones that don’t. Now it doesn’t seem like a lot of heat, but you put it in a small room or what ive seen is in AC return closets. Well hell now you are raising the AC return temp 5 degrees and killing your AC value.
I probably wouldn’t recommend just a dehumidifier foe a garage for that reason. I’m no AC pro though.
I probably wouldn’t recommend just a dehumidifier foe a garage for that reason. I’m no AC pro though.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:33 am to baldona
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I’ll tell you the problem with dehumidifiers is they have a motor and it produces heat, especially the cheaper ones. I think you can buy expensive ones that don’t. Now it doesn’t seem like a lot of heat, but you put it in a small room or what ive seen is in AC return closets. Well hell now you are raising the AC return temp 5 degrees and killing your AC value.
Absolutely right. My dehumidifier puts off a bunch of heat. Keep it on the opposite end of the room from the AC, basically right next to the garage door. Had to get one though as the room was waaay too humid without.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:22 am to turkish
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I’m looking to get a window unit for a garage, shop that’s about 350 sq ft and insulated. I do not need to keep it cold, but I would like to keep it moderately dehumidified. What should I get? Do I need a separate dehumidifier? My current ac unit has no thermostat, mostly just on/off. Tia.
You said you currently have window AC with no thermostat - does it not presently keep the garage sufficiently cool and dehumidified to your liking?
Assuming it does not, there are on-line calculators to determine the heat load of your garage and what size HVAC you need that takes into account the insulation in the wall, attic, windows, R factor of the garage door etc that will help you size an appropriate size BTU window AC. Try this one - just add the specific info for the garage. LINK
If properly sized and with thermostat, and with the garage fairly well sealed as you state, I would think it should suffice in keeping the garage at a desirable humidity - 50% and below for most of the year. Perhaps you should consider a window heat pump that will provide both cooling and heating to the garage year round, but more expensive than a straight window AC.
You can always retro insulate the garage door if required and add a dehumidifier at a later date if needed. Get one of these to monitor humidity - they are are pretty accurate and can be calibrated if needed.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 10:45 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:18 am to Clames
I bought a Toshiba window unit for my hunting camp, it was highly rated on the web, but crapped out in less than a year with only light use.
Any one else have good or bad luck with a Toshiba?
Any one else have good or bad luck with a Toshiba?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:27 am to turkish
I put a 12kBTU in my standard two car garage with a single insulated roll up door, right about 350sqft. It keeps the garage very cool and dry. My office shares a wall with the garage and it has helped keep that room cooler also.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:51 am to CrawDude
Good question about the existing one. Since it’s only hi/med/low with no timer or thermostat, I’ve assumed it would probably be horribly inefficient. Maybe I should just let it run 24/7 on lo and see what happens.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:37 pm to turkish
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Maybe I should just let it run 24/7 on lo and see what happens.
I can tell you what's going to happen. Another $150 added to your electric bill more than likely.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 2:51 pm to gumbo2176
Because it’s impossible to cheaply condition this space or because it’s a window unit running excessively?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:01 pm to turkish
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Because it’s impossible to cheaply condition this space or because it’s a window unit running excessively?
Like he mentioned, the A/C he has doesn't have a thermostat so it will run constantly and window units generally suck at cost effectiveness.
Several years ago I finally convinced my brother-in-law to put central air and heat in his house and get rid of the 5 window units he had been using to cool it and 3 floor furnaces and a couple space heaters to heat it.
He saved enough money in 3 years of reduced utility bills to pay for the cost of the unit and duct work.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:07 pm to gumbo2176
So you think spending the coin on a new one with a thermostat would be worth it?
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:26 pm to turkish
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So you think spending the coin on a new one with a thermostat would be worth it?
Yes. Reason being, if it has a thermostat on it and can cycle on and off as needed, less electricity is being used, thus more energy savings.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:17 am to turkish
Is your garage door insulated? If not you can buy a kit off Amazon for around 100 bucks and do that first. Then I'd install a slightly larger than needed window ac that has its own thermostat. Based on your square footage in the garage, I'd get a 1.5 ton (18,000 btu) unit. Why slightly larger? Even with the new garage door, and insulating panels, you'll have leakage around it. The extra half ton will help with lowering the humidity.
Disclaimer: This setup may significantly affect your electric bill.
Disclaimer: This setup may significantly affect your electric bill.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:26 am to gumbo2176
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I can tell you what's going to happen. Another $150 added to your electric bill more than likely.
I have two in our camp that basically run 24/7 from March to september when the water is high.
Bill is never more than 135 bucks and basically keeps 650 square ft at 65 degrees. Two 110v 10k but frigidaires
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:25 am to turkish
I have a 400 square foot MIL cottage in my shop and I put a 12,000 btu LG in it. Works great. Under $500
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