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re: Why do people build wood fences instead of planting hedges?

Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Phone
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:28 pm to
Big home improvement stores have 3 gal Japanese yews for $12. Nurseries have higher quality 3 gal for $15-$20. I found a guy on Craigslist who sold me 3 gal for $10 each.

If you have a ton of patience you can grow them from clippings but add another 3-4 years

I spaced mine every 2.5 feet
I’ve seen em spaced every foot

Yew hedge
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:46 pm to
Sweet viburnum on amazon

$140 for 40. At 4’ spacing I could do my whole yard for less than $500.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Phone
Member since Apr 2019
70 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:53 pm to
True but those are essentially seedlings
I’d expect some will die unless you have the greenest thumb out there
The smallest I would recommend planting is 3 gal but that’s just me
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:20 pm to
Agree that those are really, really small. For comparison, I planted some 10 gal sweet viburnums a little more than 5 years ago, and they're now 8' tall by 4-6' wide (never pruned). They're pretty dense/shrubby, and they do produce small clusters of white flowers in April.

Please, do not plant ligustrum. They're ugly, produce stinky white flowers, and I & many others are violently allergic to them. For some reason, they were very popular in the 50s/60s/70s, and you find huge mature specimens and hedges all over LA. Bah. They make me sneeze. I'd hack down every one with a chainsaw, if I could.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:24 pm to
cheaper, less maintenance & trashy.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:33 pm to
At this point I’ve got more time than money so I don’t mind growing them from very small. Andnlookkfn online, a 3 gal sweet viburnum is $43 so that would cost 13 times as much as growing them from seedlings. I might get a tray of 40 just to start and replant from there.

What’s the optimum spacing on SV for a fairly thick privacy shrub when fully mature?
Posted by Phone
Member since Apr 2019
70 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:36 pm to
I would prob grow in pots for a couple of years until they’re a little bigger

Otherwise you’re gonna have a hard time distinguishing your plant from weeds
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:38 pm to
That would be my plan. Would also Be easier to fertilize and water if I set them up in 6”-10” pots in my yard near a water source than planted along 450 feet of property line.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:54 am to
Do hedges really count as a fence in terms of homeowner's insurance and things like pools and other restrictions?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:20 am to
Baws with sweet viburnum, what is the optimum spacing for a fairly thick privacy hedge.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:49 am to
I have some planted as a screen hiding my neighbor's god-awful beige vinyl fence; they were planted 6' apart and have grown together nicely. That said, they're not dense at the bottom--if you're looking for something that is impenetrable all the way to the ground, SV might not be for you.

I didn't want an impervious hedge, I wanted something very wide, shrubby and green so that the window at the end of the hall would look out onto something other than beige vinyl ugliness. The SV ensures that the view framed by the window is of a birdbath backed by a nicely textured, dense shrub.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I have some planted as a screen hiding my neighbor's god-awful beige vinyl fence; they were planted 6' apart and have grown together nicely. That said, they're not dense at the bottom--if you're looking for something that is impenetrable all the way to the ground, SV might not be for you. I didn't want an impervious hedge, I wanted something very wide, shrubby and green so that the window at the end of the hall would look out onto something other than beige vinyl ugliness. The SV ensures that the view framed by the window is of a birdbath backed by a nicely textured, dense shrub.


I think I’m looking for what you have. I’m not trying to keep anyone out physically, just want a nice row of greenery instead of looking at the backs of houses (and vice versa w/ them looking in).
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:11 pm to
A well laid English hedge will last like 100 years and is supposed to be tight enough to stop animals from getting through

LINK - YouTube hedge laying video
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7342 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:06 pm to
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I would have zero issues with my neighbor nailing boards up to the fence frame on their side so they can cover the ugly side.



My neighbor behind my house did this. He built it to where the ugly side is on his side and he still nailed boards up to cover it up. I wouldn't have cared if the ugly side was on my side. Doesn't bother me one bit. I saved money by not building the fence
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18916 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Phone
Just had the same thought...then I found this thread. Lotta dummies out there huh??
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:15 am to
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Wood fences look ok for about a year. Then time takes its toll. Color fades. The wood rots. The wood starts warping.


Yeah, all true, but it's cheap and easy work with. I'd like to build one out of plates of iron and steel, with sharp spikes and edges along the top. Maybe electrified spikes. A mini version of what our souther boarder wall should be.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10939 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 3:56 am to


. . . don't like.

From on edge stone to phony looking (pseudo) natural look. Of course I'd never wall up the front of my house.
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1013 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 5:01 am to
Topic comes right in time. I'm building a fence now. You can always stain a fence when it looks dull. Also a fence done properly should last you at least 15 years. I love them, good for making neighbors mine their business
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18916 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:53 pm to
I’m sympathetic to hedges because they’re so damn European, and everything they do is cool.

Natural >>> constructed fence.

But I’ll probably utilize both.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12818 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 8:55 am to
You want my ligustrums? I hate those damn things, but growing up the only people with fences had pools or dogs.
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