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wasted money on crabgrass preventer from Lowes

Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:07 am
over $18 for this stuff that was put down at the end of January and it had no effect.
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Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:25 am to
Interesting, late Jan should have been early enough but we had a warm winter and crabgrass seeds germinate at soil temps of 55 F. Dimension (dithiopyr) is an effective crabgrass pre-emergent with the added benefit will kill young crabgrass up to the 3 leaf/tillering stage. I had a significant crabgrass issue in my lawn, no longer. Try using Dimension next year.

If you have a centipede lawn you can kill the crabgrass with sethoxydim.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:28 am to
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If you have a centipede lawn you can kill the crabgrass with sethoxydim.


I have a mix of St Aug, & centipede with some bermuda sprinkled in. I don't care if poison wipes one of the other out just want go get a handle on the crabgrass.

I'll look for some sethoxydim. Is that usually sold in liquid or granules? Thanks for the reply!
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41590 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:45 am to
I don't understand the big deal about getting rid of crabgrass. I had a lot of it in my back yard a couple years ago and I went and pulled it all up in an afternoon. Never came back after that.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

I'll look for some sethoxydim. Is that usually sold in liquid or granules? Thanks for the reply!

Liquid -Fertilome Over the Top 11, Vantage, Bonide Over The Top, Hi Yield Grass Killer....just double check the label so you pick up the correct product. Retail plant nurseries, hardware stores will usually carry one of those brands. Never seen it at the big box stores. You can spot spray without killing much of the the Bermudagrass or St Augustine. Might get some temporary yellowing of centipede but it will recover.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 6:26 pm
Posted by coopsdad
Luling, LA
Member since Sep 2009
917 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:56 pm to
I used that same kind last season and it worked great. So good that I didn't even use it this year and yard still looks good. Granted, I didn't have a real bad crabgrass problem to begin with.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4501 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 4:52 pm to
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I'll look for some sethoxydim.


As I stated in another post this stuff is great for centipede. Kills crab and dallisgrass and hits torpedograss pretty hard. I use the high yield brand because it's cheaper than the rest. Ordered it on Amazon.
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1013 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:19 am to
Man that never was going to work. Your application has to be precise especially with pounds on the ground.

Get to spraying chemicals and your crabgrass with be a thing of the past.

Pre emergent at least twice a year rotating between prodiamine and gallery.

Post emergent MSM turf with atrazine
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
924 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:27 am to
Anyone have a good crabgrass killer for zoysia yards? Grass has not started greening yet but the crabgrass is in full bloom and looking terrible.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:32 am to
Craw, is crabgrass up already in south louisiana? I am in Dallas so I don't know if it has germinated down there yet. I know it was a warm winter but for people to have crabgrass before the end of March is early. We don't worry about that in north texas until the end of May. I am wondering if some of these clumps of crabgrass are actually dallis grass.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:46 am to
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Craw, is crabgrass up already in south louisiana?

ronk good question - I’m not seeing in my yard or neighbors in Baton Rouge, though I use pre-emergent, but I know some of my neighbors do not. However, some posters reporting this are from New Orleans area and you’d surprised at the difference in temps between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. But I will say this from my own personal experience with my lawn prior to using pre-emergents, crabgrass wasn’t that noticeable this early in the year.

But I’m like you, I’m now thinking some posters are generically calling any grassy looking weeds they are now seeing in the lawn “crabgrass” when it could be a perennial grassy weeds like Dallisgrass that is now greening up. Probably would be best to suggest posters post photos of “crabgrass”.

Like the OP who stated he applied Crabgrass Preventer from Lowe’s in late Jan and it didn’t work - it was unusually warm this winter - but I’m now questioning if it’s really crabgrass he is seeing and not something else. Seems to me late Jan application should have been early enough, even further south than BR.

OP if you are still following why don’t you post a closeup photo of your “crabgrass” so posters can try to ID it so see if you you are really dealing with crabgrass or perhaps another perennial grassy weed.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:50 am to
quote:

generically calling any grassy looking weeds they are now seeing in the lawn “crabgrass” when it could be a perennial grassy weeds like Dallisgrass
Bingo
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4501 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:57 am to
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is crabgrass up already in south louisiana


I usually have large patches come up around my muscadine vines in the back due to the fertilizer and that hasn't shown itself yet. Either the barricade worked well or it's not up yet. I did nothing to control it last year outside of an early dose of Sethoxydim.

Dallis grass is growing nicely though
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 11:43 am to
Did it get watered in?

Are you sure its crabgrass?
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7981 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 11:51 am to
Dallis grass is some tough shite.

That and annua poa. I've learned more in the last 2 years about weeds than in all my 40 plus years of life. Talk about information saturation.

But it's what it takes.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:03 pm to
I know poa can be stubborn but if you spot treat it with certainty/atrazine, wait 2 weeks and then mow it’ll work.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:30 pm to
This shite is growing well whatever it is
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Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:50 pm to
It’s not crabgrass. It’s hard for me to be 100% sure because of the picture but it appears to be dallisgrass.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63989 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:05 pm to
I have used the same stuff for about a year and it has done decent on crabgrass and woodsorrel, and excellent on henbit but does absolutely nothing on chickweed or poa, it actually seems to fertilize and encourage chickweed and poa.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 6:06 pm
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12576 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:41 am to
How do you already have crabgrass coming up?
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